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10-01-04, 12:51 PM
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Another thing I would like the fans of a Pit ban to think about....
When you start allowing ful breed or species bans you are bringing your hobby into direct danger. Snakes, like pits, are often the victims of bad information and because of this they are not allowed in many places.
Before calling to ban another persons passion and love, better think about what it will do to your own as well.
Marisa
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10-01-04, 12:56 PM
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Good point, Marisa. I'll leave it up to you to make the intelligent, thought-provoking posts, because I hadn't even considered that. I had compared dogs and reptiles previously, but in a different context. It's a eye-opener I hope for all those calling for bans. Bans don't work, and I will always believe there are better solutions out there... =)
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10-01-04, 01:03 PM
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That's very true. A few years ago a woman named Diane Whipple was attacked and mauled outside of her apartment door by two Presa Canarios. These dogs are similar to Pits and Staffies in body shape, type and build but are much larger. (One of the dogs was actually heavier than Miss Whipple)
Unfortunately Miss Whipple succumbed to her injuries and the owners of the Presa Canarios went on trial, and I believe, convicted of manslaughter (or First degree murder). The dogs were put down, and it was even said that the male dog, (I forget his name), was subjected to numerous tranquilizers, and still walked from the scene of the attack to the Animal Control Vehicle, were I believe he was euthanized. (I don't remember all the fine details of this story).
Amazingly enough, I have heard nothing on the Presa Canarios, which are a relatively rare breed. If Pits, Rotties, Mastiffs, etc. are banned, people looking for big, mean dogs will turn to Presas. I can practially guarantee it. Anyways, I would like to see more positive stories about Pits and Staffies specifically.
Thanks to all of you who have followed my example by showing the good nature of Pits. =)
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This is one of the most infamous cases of irresponsible dog ownership in the United States and was a huge wake-up call to irresponsible dog owners. They originally charged the woman who owned the dogs with second degree MURDER, but this was thrown out because she couldn't really know 'when' the dogs would attack. I believe the final charge was involuntary manslaughter and 4 years in prison.
For a complete/interesting look at this story with fun pictures click here:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/cr...noel-knoeller/
I'm all for the complete banning/euthanizing of irresponsible pet owners by the way...
Heather Rose
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"Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention." - John Doe, Seven
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10-01-04, 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by HeatherRose
I'm all for the complete banning/euthanizing of irresponsible pet owners by the way...
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LOL
I wasn't able to access the link here... it's a "forbidden" site apparently... is it possible you can post directly?? Thanks!
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10-01-04, 01:16 PM
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The article is HUGE... Are you at work?? My guess is just about everyone's place of employment has Rotten.com blocked.. LOL..
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10-01-04, 01:17 PM
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Yes, I'm always at work when I'm here.. no phone at home... LOL =)
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10-01-04, 01:23 PM
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Yeah, Rotten is blocked for lots of people at school/work...too bad, the library's full of useful information. I'll PM it to you Samba, no pictures though 
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"Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention." - John Doe, Seven
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10-01-04, 01:33 PM
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Thanks, Heather... I'll be looking forward to it, and I really appreciate it! =)
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10-01-04, 01:40 PM
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*whispers* ...'your Pm box is full'... :P
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Heather Rose
"Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention." - John Doe, Seven
Heather Rose Reptiles
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10-01-04, 01:55 PM
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LOL, Okay lemme clear some stuff... hehe I wish we have some kind of warning to let us know... thanks!
P.S. Ok, hope I freed up enough space... sorry about that... Geez there's messages in there from like, two years ago! LOL
Thanks for the favor, Heather, I appreciate it!!!
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10-01-04, 02:05 PM
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Wow Heather, thats some crazy story..... 
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10-01-04, 02:25 PM
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Why is Rotten.Com banned? I've never been to that site... is it just graphic or what??
JonD, you shoulda seen the news footage inside the corridor where Miss Whipple was attacked... many shots were blurred for 'viewer' protection, but they said some of the emergency staff, including EMT's and Law Enforcement officals needed to undergo counseling for 'post-traumatic stress' related disorders.
Even though this is a horrible story, it reminds those who love and hate dogs, the things they are capable of. The owners were held completely responsible for their dog's actions, and I just think that's awesome! I like gory stories (I know I'm sic) but this one is truely a sad, sad, story. This woman did not deserve to die... =(
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10-01-04, 02:31 PM
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Oh Samba....you are in for a world of shock when you finally do see rotten.com
Marisa
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10-01-04, 02:36 PM
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I LOVE to be SHOCKED!!! LOL I'm almost craving it!!!
I got hooked on that Darwin Awards Site awhile back, but haven't had anything to read since I've read every story on that site! LOL
Please tell me what it's like! LOL =)
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10-01-04, 02:39 PM
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If you like gore and shock.. You should get a phone line JUST for that site.. LOL
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