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09-23-16, 03:19 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
...going in a completely different direction, a western hog nose is a great, friendly snake with lots of personality. They will mimic a cobra, hiss, and play dead. But they can be very social, and don't tend be nippy.
No comparison to the larger breeds, but I wasn't sure if you've made up your mind on size yet...
Look at the cute turned up noses (these are babies)
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09-23-16, 03:25 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Here is the link for sizes: APCages - Terrestrial
I have a T20 (6ftx2ftx2ft).
Dimensions of the T50 are 84Lx30Dx18H. Maybe better for a 10ft snake?
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09-23-16, 03:25 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Originally Posted by JellyBean
...going in a completely different direction, a western hog nose is a great, friendly snake with lots of personality. They will mimic a cobra, hiss, and play dead. But they can be very social, and don't tend be nippy.
No comparison to the larger breeds, but I wasn't sure if you've made up your mind on size yet...
Look at the cute turned up noses (these are babies)
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They are very cute snakes and I will probably own one in the future. Right now I am looking for something a little bigger.
They sure are very cute though 
Unless I get two 24" cages to stack on top of the 48" and get two smaller snakes...
Damn...
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09-23-16, 03:46 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Originally Posted by Plaxito
They are very cute snakes and I will probably own one in the future. Right now I am looking for something a little bigger.
They sure are very cute though
Unless I get two 24" cages to stack on top of the 48" and get two smaller snakes...
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In that case the second snake should be a Californian redsided garter (T.s.infernalis)
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09-23-16, 04:00 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Jay, that is beautiful!
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09-23-16, 04:11 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Jay, that is beautiful!
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Thanks, I think so too! Fast becoming a favourite species 
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09-23-16, 04:43 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Okay, so I will be buying the AP enclosure fairly soon. Since I am planning on buying another snake in the future I would like to buy two enclosures so that I don't have to pay shipping twice. What is a fairly large snake that I could keep in a T13? Please only name snakes appropriate for that size enclosure.
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Oh, a black milk snake! They are awesome. They can reach 7 feet and are heavy-bodied, muscular snakes but very docile. Strong feeding response though. Babies are banded tricolors but as they grow they darken until they are solid iridescent black. They live in high-altitude cloud forests so they like cool temperatures.
Article on care and breeding of black milks:
Breeding The Black Milk Snake
ETA: Have had good experiences with Animal Plastics.
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09-23-16, 06:16 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Oh I would love a red sided garter. But they're illegal to own here in California. If you are looking at them, make sure you check the laws regarding owning them in your state.
And hoggies are wonderful.
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09-23-16, 07:35 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
That garter is BEAUTIFUL!
I think I will be doing the 48" on the bottom and two 24"s on top.
I like the Mexican Black Milk Snake but would the 24Lx24Dx12H be enough?
I will be doing lots of research about animals that I can keep in these enclosures. I am open to anything. Tarantulas, lizards, frogs, etc...
But please, for the love of god, no. crickets.
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09-23-16, 08:04 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
The black milk snake (Lampropeltis triangulum gigeae) hails from Costa Rica and Panama. I think you have it confused with the Mexican black king snake, which is a very different species.
A baby black milk would be fine with 24"x24"12" but an adult would need at least a T10. The T13 you mentioned would be great. You could divide it when the snake is very small and take the divider out as it grows.
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09-23-16, 08:07 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Originally Posted by SerpentineDream
The black milk snake (Lampropeltis triangulum gigeae) hails from Costa Rica and Panama. I think you have it confused with the Mexican black king snake, which is a very different species.
A baby black milk would be fine with 24"x24"12" but an adult would need at least a T10. The T13 you mentioned would be great. You could divide it when the snake is small and take the divider out as it grows.
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I mean to say Mexican Black King Snake. Would he be okay in the T1?
What else could I do in those?
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09-23-16, 08:15 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Mexican black king snake needs sonething bigger. I wouldn't go smaller than a T3 (36"x24"x12") for that one.
Hognose or garter would be good for the T1.
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0.1 Hog Island Boa, 0.1 Woma Python, 2.3 Ball Pythons, 1.1 Stimson's Pythons, 1.1 Western Hognoses, 4.6 Corns, 1.1 Mexican Milks, 2.2 Black Milks, 1.1 CA Kings, 1.1 CA Red-Sided Garters, 2.3 Trans-Pecos Rats, 2.2 Russian Rats, 1.0 Olive House Snake
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09-23-16, 11:51 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Garter one side, African house snake the other. When I upgrade my vivs for the others I'm getting one!
There's a recent thread in the general colubrid forum about them.
This is the problem with the hobby-so many neat snakes to own! You see-I'd stick to the original plan and put a female Colombian boa imperator in the bottom one.
But it is of course entirely your decision
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0.1 B imperator, 1.0 M spilota harrisoni, 1.0 C hortulanus, 2.1 P reticulatus (Madu locality), 1.1 S amethystine, 1.1 L olivaceous, 1.0 C angulifer, 1.0 Z persicus, 0.1 P regius, 0.1 N natrix, 0.1 E climacophora, 1.0 P obsoletus, 0.1 L geluta nigrtia, 1.0 P catenifer sayi, 1.0 T lepidus
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09-24-16, 12:56 AM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Originally Posted by dannybgoode
Garter one side, African house snake the other. When I upgrade my vivs for the others I'm getting one!
There's a recent thread in the general colubrid forum about them.
This is the problem with the hobby-so many neat snakes to own! You see-I'd stick to the original plan and put a female Colombian boa imperator in the bottom one.
But it is of course entirely your decision |
The female columbian would be fine in the 48"?
In that case I will buy 2 48's and 1 24
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09-24-16, 01:17 AM
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Re: Looking for new snake
I would have said most should be OK-it's 30 deep right? That said just occasionally you get a girl that exceeds 7'. They are very slow growing thigh so you'd have plenty of time to buy a bigger viv at some point in the future leaving you with a nice free space to fill with something else  .
A female Central American (my Auntie Rachel is a CA-see photo on home page ) would certainly be OK. Bear in mind they're the same species just a different locality and just as stunning.
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0.1 B imperator, 1.0 M spilota harrisoni, 1.0 C hortulanus, 2.1 P reticulatus (Madu locality), 1.1 S amethystine, 1.1 L olivaceous, 1.0 C angulifer, 1.0 Z persicus, 0.1 P regius, 0.1 N natrix, 0.1 E climacophora, 1.0 P obsoletus, 0.1 L geluta nigrtia, 1.0 P catenifer sayi, 1.0 T lepidus
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