Turbine eating in the air.

[Shann]

I lay down a plastic placemat when my boa eats. I don't think it's necessary by any means, but it does prevent substrate ingestion, so it's just an extra precaution, and a way to let her know she is going to be fed. And as soon as that placemat goes into her cage, she knows it's dinnertime. That way I'm not moving a large snake in feeding mode.

[bigsnakegirl785]

Originally Posted by Ks42

ive posted everything as my own and friends opinions , mold is commen with humiduty and produces spores, could that not cause lung infections if inhailed in larger quantitys ? and putting them in a bedding less container for feeding would solve the mouthfuls of bedding issue, if you dont find that a problem well thats your opinion.

No, I doubt it. The spores could possibly irritate the snake's lung, but I doubt it would get infected. Generally, spores and mold can be avoided by not allowing too much air flow and not keeping your bedding soaking wet. Mold thrives in hot AND humid environments. I've heard of fungi infecting snake skin, but I've never heard of it affecting them internally, although if anyone has any links of such a case I'd be glad to read them!

Since I feed f/t, the snakes don't GENERALLY get much bedding in their mouths, but if the drag the rat around or the bedding sticks to wet parts they can ingest some and they have gotten a good mouthful each before with no blockages or death.

[Ks42]

[QUOTE=Shann;899912]I lay down a plastic placemat when my boa eats. I don't think it's necessary by any means, but it does prevent substrate ingestion, so it's just an extra precaution, and a way to let her know she is going to be fed. And as soon as that placemat goes into her cage, she knows it's dinnertime. That way I'm not moving a large snake in feeding mode.[/QU

i agree that it isnt necessary but taking it as an ecxtra preaution never hurt.
id rather do the little extra work then have my snake get a mouth full of bedding :/

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785

No, I doubt it. The spores could possibly irritate the snake's lung, but I doubt it would get infected. Generally, spores and mold can be avoided by not allowing too much air flow and not keeping your bedding soaking wet. Mold thrives in hot AND humid environments. I've heard of fungi infecting snake skin, but I've never heard of it affecting them internally, although if anyone has any links of such a case I'd be glad to read them!

Since I feed f/t, the snakes don't GENERALLY get much bedding in their mouths, but if the drag the rat around or the bedding sticks to wet parts they can ingest some and they have gotten a good mouthful each before with no blockages or death.

i know it is very uncommen for a snake to be harmed from ingesting bedding but it isnt unherd of, i wouldnt be so against it if i havent had some one come to me with pictures and questions, regaurdless that i told RECOMENDED feeding in a seperate continer (not just for the bedding injestion but i do belive feeding in a seperate container lowers agraetion within the original encolsure) he blamed me for selling him the ' unfit substraight' regaurdless it was specificaly desinged for snakes.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by poison123

Did you?,,,

from the infomation on mold and excessive spor inhalation ive read, yes, spores can cause lung infections,
me stating this is a fact was myslef being slightly egotistical and trusting somehting i read on an unfarmiliar site, my apologies. that being said, it isnt compleatly incorect due to the fact that yes mold spores can cause lung infections

[bigsnakegirl785]

Originally Posted by Ks42

i know it is very uncommen for a snake to be harmed from ingesting bedding but it isnt unherd of, i wouldnt be so against it if i havent had some one come to me with pictures and questions, regaurdless that i told RECOMENDED feeding in a seperate continer (not just for the bedding injestion but i do belive feeding in a seperate container lowers agraetion within the original encolsure) he blamed me for selling him the ' unfit substraight' regaurdless it was specificaly desinged for snakes.

Well, as I said before it's a hit or miss on the aggression. Personally, my boa was a lot more willing to bite when I was feeding in a separate enclosure, and moving him around when he's got a nice whiff of rat just increased my chances of getting bit even more. I do use a hook, but I don't use it to pick them up so even using a hook didn't help. Besides, it's pointless to use a hook if you're going to use it during feeding time, too.

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by Ks42

well considering all my snakes have been tub fed since they were babies as well as handled almost every day for a period of about 40 minutes and not once has any snake in my collection ever reared up at me or showed agretion in any way what so ever, now on the other hand, the second i out them in the feeding tubs, any thing that enters the enclosure is reconized as food, , my snakes are ecxtreamly agressive and stoong feeders, mouse doesnt even touch the ground and its already in its mouth.

to cockly reply to your comment, do you try and eat befor youre seated at your supper table? not likley
as for my understanding of husbandry, ive never encounters a problem relating towards that topic or any problem with my snakes for that matter, one picky feeder is the only thing i have to deal with and thats been solved with a few assists feeds, now hes eating all on his own and happier then ever, so if my understanding of husbandry is misguided, id like to first see signs from my several snakes befor id say my understandings of the husbndry is misguided, you sir are just ignorent

The problem with what you're saying is that it is completely anecdotal. There are plenty of people who have managed to keep animals alive despite having poor husbandry. It doesn't mean that such conditions are actually acceptable or beneficial.

I called your husbandry into question because you don't seem to understand how moving around a a snake that is about to be fed/has eaten is much more stressful that simply feeding the snake in its enclosure.

[Sublimeballs]

Originally Posted by MDT

You've obviously not owned/fed retics....

^This.

I have never had a snake mistake my hand for food unless I smelled like mice. My snakes know they're getting food when they smell it.

^And this

That is all.

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

The problem with what you're saying is that it is completely anecdotal. There are plenty of people who have managed to keep animals alive despite having poor husbandry. It doesn't mean that such conditions are actually acceptable or beneficial.

I called your husbandry into question because you don't seem to understand how moving around a a snake that is about to be fed/has eaten is much more stressful that simply feeding the snake in its enclosure.

my understanding is husbandry refers to what they are housed in, not how the snake in handled? my snakes have never refused a meal or regurgitated, if there were problems in my husbandry or with handling my snakes, wouldnt i have some issues?
4 yearswith larger snakes and no issues i seem to be doing it right in my opinion, and i belive my snakes go to show it

[Ks42]

Originally Posted by Sublimeballs

^This.



^And this

That is all.

your post is irrelavent to the conversation at hand,
^and that is all

[Sublimeballs]

Seeing as it is quotes from this exact conversation it is infact rather relevant.

[MDT]

This is how I feel after reading this thread...


Freaking spores?!?!? Are you kidding? I have no idea how snakes have survived millions of years without us.....

[Mikoh4792]

Give him a break, hes new here hahahha.

[Mikoh4792]

Actually husbandry encompasses all aspects of care including handling. Especially handling during feeding.

[Sublimeballs]

Originally Posted by MDT

This is how I feel after reading this thread...


Freaking spores?!?!? Are you kidding? I have no idea how snakes have survived millions of years without us.....

Hahaha, I'm right there with you man. I'm debating if I care enough to make an actual reply.