What snake is this? Thanks - Page 6

ErikBush97 · 09-01-13, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug 351

I have no idea what you are talking about with the deletion thing. Funny how you can find little things like that and miss the point of a whole post.

Liar alert... Do you have no idea what I'm talking about or did I find that little thing and miss the point of the post? L.O.L...

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When they are little they eat mosquitoes. When they get older they eat bugs that eat or damage crops.I'm not going to keep arguing this.

How did I miss the point of the post?! Explain your exact point? Was it trying to justify killing innocent creatures, dude? But if they eat mosquitoes, then you're right... Snakes should die so your not itchy. Lol. What bugs cause so much damage to your crops to the point that you need to procect the frogs? Actually.. Don't answer that or any of my questions... I don't want to hear your pathetic attemps at justification. I also don't want issues, so I'm just going to block you and we can go our seperate ways.

smy_749 · 09-01-13, 07:27 PM

The idiocy in this thread is reaching maximum capacity. Doug, I suggest reading a few books on how ecosystems / food chains work. If there is an imbalance, they will sort it out. If they don't sort it out, oh well. Don't forget Doug, mosquitoes and malaria are part of nature as well. Let's not pick and choose which parts we enjoy, and act like the rest don't exist.

Idontknow · 09-02-13, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ErikBush97

Liar alert... Do you have no idea what I'm talking about or did I find that little thing and miss the point of the post? L.O.L...

How did I miss the point of the post?! Explain your exact point? Was it trying to justify killing innocent creatures, dude? But if they eat mosquitoes, then you're right... Snakes should die so your not itchy. Lol. What bugs cause so much damage to your crops to the point that you need to procect the frogs? Actually.. Don't answer that or any of my questions... I don't want to hear your pathetic attemps at justification. I also don't want issues, so I'm just going to block you and we can go our seperate ways.

I appreciate all the comments however I have still not established what snake this was. Most of you say it's some kind of a water snake. People on facebook say it's a copperhead. Here is a repost of the picture. I am trying to learn more about snakes so don't just kill every one I encounter on my new property. I do have a large pond in the back and I have seen another small snake in the water since I first posted. Thanks guys. IMG_20130828_175737.jpg

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**Pareeeee** · 09-02-13, 07:15 AM

You should really look at this. It's for Virginia but it really helps you identify the Copperhead "lookalikes".
http://www.virginiaherpetologicalsoc...%20pattern.jpg

You have two species of water snake in NC from my research. The one in your photo is a Northern Watersnake, Nerodia sipedon.

They can also come in different colour phases:

Head, quite different than the Copperhead.

Note how different a Copperhead looks, and the hourglass shaped markings on its back:

Head - note the telltale light-coloured "mask" on the face, heat pit and vertical pupil.

Also here is a picture of a harmless Brown Watersnake, Nerodia taxispilota. In case you encounter one of them at your pond you can ID it as well.

Watersnakes can come in many variations depending on age, the adults will be darker and markings harder to see, and young ones will be lighter with contrasting markings.

Here is a site that may help you, snakes of NC.
Snakes of North Carolina

MDT · 09-02-13, 08:11 AM

Vic...hey dude, this is not a copperhead, it is a northern water snake like Pareeeee posted. The Facebook friends are wrong.
Sorry the thread spiraled into chaos, but that's fairly typical

The fact you have a pond on your property guarantees you will see more. Hats off to you on trying to learn what they look like. Most people just keep on chopping. Hope you stick around on the forum, who knows, maybe you'll start keeping snakes or lizards

KORBIN5895 · 09-02-13, 08:32 AM

Also notice the lack of heat pits on the dead snake.

dbassa · 09-02-13, 09:12 AM

Pareeeee, that was very informative. Thanks for posting.

Doug 351 · 09-02-13, 08:45 PM

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Vic...hey dude, this is not a copperhead, it is a northern water snake like Pareeeee posted. The Facebook friends are wrong.
Sorry the thread spiraled into chaos, but that's fairly typical

The fact you have a pond on your property guarantees you will see more. Hats off to you on trying to learn what they look like. Most people just keep on chopping. Hope you stick around on the forum, who knows, maybe you'll start keeping snakes or lizards

Can't improve on this post. Right on. Just don't pay too much attention to the infighting on the other posts. There's a whole bunch of very knowledgeable people who are more than happy to help. There are also some who like to kill time arguing. I enjoy both. I hope that in the midst of all the arguing valid information comes out that otherwise wouldn't. It has for me.

KORBIN5895 · 09-02-13, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug 351

Can't improve on this post. Right on. Just don't pay too much attention to the infighting on the other posts. There's a whole bunch of very knowledgeable people who are more than happy to help. There are also some who like to kill time arguing. I enjoy both. I hope that in the midst of all the arguing valid information comes out that otherwise wouldn't. It has for me.

So have you research the ecological disaster in Florida yet?

ErikBush97 · 09-02-13, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Idontknow

I appreciate all the comments however I have still not established what snake this was. Most of you say it's some kind of a water snake. People on farent ok say it's a copperhead. Here is a repost of the picture. I am trying to learn more about snakes so don't just kill every one I encounter on my new property. I do have a large pond in the back and I have seen another small snake in the water since I first posted. Thanks guys. Attachment 25406

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I'd most definitely say that's a water snake. If you'd like to be safe, I'd buy a very long snake hook and a bucket so you can pick them up and relocate them. Water snakes aren't dangerous but you never know if you'll find a Copperhead in your yard one day and mistake it for a water snake.

ErikBush97 · 09-02-13, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Idontknow

I appreciate all the comments however I have still not established what snake this was. Most of you say it's some kind of a water snake. People on facebook say it's a copperhead. Here is a repost of the picture. I am trying to learn more about snakes so don't just kill every one I encounter on my new property. I do have a large pond in the back and I have seen another small snake in the water since I first posted. Thanks guys. Attachment 25406

Vic

I would also like to take a second to thank you. Some people might say "I'll just kill them just to be safe.." But I admire you for trying to prevent more unnecessary deaths!

ErikBush97 · 09-02-13, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

So have you research the ecological disaster in Florida yet?

Lol

Ttttttttt

Doug 351 · 09-02-13, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

So have you research the ecological disaster in Florida yet?

Sorry Korbin- No

I thought that was why we kept you around. You can just tell me and save me a bunch of time. Besides, I can't believe what I research- hell I can't believe what I see with my own eyes. There is only one truth, one reality, and you have it, so why bother with anyone else's.

I'll just throw a bag of popcorn in the microwave and sit back and become enlightened by the genuis that is Korbin 5895......

Seriously-I am more concerned with local problems at this time. People are dying and I don't know when that became a joke or something to push aside- but I take it pretty seriously. And I PO'd a few here just for that reason. IDK why.........never mind.

KORBIN5895 · 09-02-13, 11:37 PM

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Sorry Korbin- No

I thought you said you did research????

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I believe I already did and showed so.

If you want to make me look the fool, do so with realistic solutions backed up by fact.lf you want to play the fool- carry on.

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Originally Posted by Doug 351

I thought that was why we kept you around. You can just tell me and save me a bunch of time. Besides, I can't believe what I research- hell I can't believe what I see with my own eyes. There is only one truth, one reality, and you have it, so why bother with anyone else's.

I'll just throw a bag of popcorn in the microwave and sit back and become enlightened by the genuis that is Korbin 5895......

Seriously-I am more concerned with local problems at this time. People are dying and I don't know when that became a joke or something to push aside- but I take it pretty seriously. And I PO'd a few here just for that reason. IDK why.........never mind.

Nice dance but like I said before all you seem to do is talk about things you have no information or knowledge on. If you would stop talking and start listening I think you might learn something.

So people are dying and because you take that seriously you pissed us off???? What the heck are you on? Who said anything about people dying? Doug you are delusional and living in some strange and twisted alternative reality where everything is non sequitur .

infernalis · 09-03-13, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Idontknow

I appreciate all the comments however I have still not established what snake this was. Most of you say it's some kind of a water snake. People on facebook say it's a copperhead. Here is a repost of the picture. I am trying to learn more about snakes so don't just kill every one I encounter on my new property. I do have a large pond in the back and I have seen another small snake in the water since I first posted. Thanks guys. Attachment 25406

Vic

Here is what is confusing me, The markings, the coloration indicate Nerodia Sipedon, common water snake, non venomous, but the apparent shape of the head looks wrong for a Nerodia.