my lavendar cornsnake starved himself to death - Page 5

exwizard · 11-04-12, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

This piece of garbage is no reason or excuse to NOT properly think ahead. "Hey, we don't touch snakes for hours after eating but it's OKAY to take a drive across town after a stress force/assist feeding."

Gotcha.

You're the last person I would ever ask for advice.

I wouldn't give you advice if my life depended on it. Your arrogance still amazes me and it blinds you the hateful self that you are.

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

For more advice, RMF, even though you want a lavender get some big girl panties on and research where to find one. I'm POSITIVE I can find you 3 that can be shipped to you for cheap.

You outdid yourself yet again. Wow!

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Oh, I'm sorry, I bet you want the dirt cheap ones at shows.

She was not expecting to find this one and when she did find it, she was so excited aboiut it, I decided to get it for her. So much for holding out for the "super cheap ones" at the shows. I dont even care what you say anyway. Your arrogance oozes all over your posts. I dont even know why I even feel the need to call you out on it. I know from what perspective you operate on and Ive known it for a long time. Oh wait, I know why. You smell blood and you want in on this attack just to satisfy your own ego.

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

In case you need "Jupiter 2" here are some links...

Corn Snakes – BHB Reptiles

Lavender Corn Snake (Baby) For Sale Online, Buy Now With UPS Overnight Shipping

Kingsnake.com Classifieds > Corn Snake Classifieds

There's four at the bottom of BHB's page of various combos.
The Bell's have one on sale for 39.99!
The last is a list from kingsnake...searching purely for lavenders.

This is the only constructive thing you said in this post and it took major sifting through all the sarcasm and condemnation to be able to pull anything good out of your post. Thanks a lot!

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You didn't have to wait so long and then lose so much by getting the one from the show.

"shoulda woulda coulda". This is most of what you said in this post and for the most part is soo unproductive. But then thats just like you and really even now in all my amazement of what you are capable of, only confirms to me just how hateful you are. I wrtite you off from here on out. Nothing you can say ever until you are blue in the face can ever have ANY relevance to me or anything I say or do. So let it be written. So let it be done.

marvelfreak · 11-04-12, 07:24 PM

Class the bell as rang now everybody shut and sit down. Anymore bickering and you will all go to the principles office.

Don't make me put your asses in time out.

**Aaron_S** · 11-04-12, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

I wouldn't give you advice if my life depended on it. Your arrogance still amazes me and it blinds you the hateful self that you are.

You outdid yourself yet again. Wow!

She was not expecting to find this one and when she did find it, she was so excited aboiut it, I decided to get it for her. So much for holding out for the "super cheap ones" at the shows. I dont even care what you say anyway. Your arrogance oozes all over your posts. I dont even know why I even feel the need to call you out on it. I know from what perspective you operate on and Ive known it for a long time. Oh wait, I know why. You smell blood and you want in on this attack just to satisfy your own ego.

This is the only constructive thing you said in this post and it took major sifting through all the sarcasm and condemnation to be able to pull anything good out of your post. Thanks a lot!

"shoulda woulda coulda". This is most of what you said in this post and for the most part is soo unproductive. But then thats just like you and really even now in all my amazement of what you are capable of, only confirms to me just how hateful you are. I wrtite you off from here on out. Nothing you can say ever until you are blue in the face can ever have ANY relevance to me or anything I say or do. So let it be written. So let it be done.

Well...all I hear is wha, wha, wha.

Once you grow up and accept responsibility for your inexperience leading to the death of a baby cornsnake and possibly the passion of a new keeper then, maybe I'll consider you worthy of my time.

EmbraceCalamity · 11-04-12, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

I wouldn't give you advice if my life depended on it. Your arrogance still amazes me and it blinds you the hateful self that you are.

And here we see how much you truly care about animals. No wonder things went the way they did. I would give advice in the interest of helping an animal to anyone, no matter how much I hated them.
~Maggot

**Aaron_S** · 11-04-12, 07:36 PM

Now we are just getting off topic again.

STAY FOCUSED!

EmbraceCalamity · 11-04-12, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Now we are just getting off topic again.

STAY FOCUSED!

HOKAY. I can't imagine lavender corns are that hard to find. I've looked at lots of reptile sites and seen lots for sale. Or are they that rare? I'm not that into snakes, so I wouldn't know.

~Maggot

**lady_bug87** · 11-04-12, 07:40 PM

as far as I know they're not that sparse in numbers. Usually when I go to an expo all I see are Ball Pythons and Corns

exwizard · 11-04-12, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Hang on,

NOWHERE did I harp on ANYTHING to do with her. Her snake died and I am sorry that it did, but she messed up.

I think you're being so defensive because you helped her and that means that YOU messed up too.

If I remember reading correctly YOU went with her to pick it out and YOU helped to try get the poor thing to eat. You are not an inexperienced keeper, So the fact that you "let" her take home an unestablished animal (if you indeed did) should be equally YOUR responsibility,

This is a classic example of a 'do your homework', 'can't always get what you want when you want it situation'

I can respect she's "wanted one for a long time" but that is no excuse to buy a sick animal, or one that has not been established. ESPECIALLY since she asked someone with a lot of experience to help her out.

Shes not blaming me for this and she did try to do everything in her power to keep it alive. Then when that failed she thought she would share this with you guys and what she got in exchange was a lot of bloodletting by the likes of a lot of you guys. Amazing! Just whan I thought Ive seen it all. Wow!

There are a couple of things I have learned from all this...

1- Buy from only reputable vendors

2- To NEVER EVER present any of this to you guys again. I never realized that the slightest smell of blood would send you all into such a feeding frenzy.

You guys act like this snake was yours and that she killed your snake. Nothing could be further from the truth on either count no matter what you say. I bought her this snake with my money, not yours and she did NOT kill it. We did not even know this snake was not an established eater until after we tried to feed it. Why am I trying to explain all this to you guys anyway. It's just more blood that will stir up even more of a mad wolf feeding frenzy.

I am sorry that all this was even brought up to begin with.

**lady_bug87** · 11-04-12, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

Continue to be ill for all I care. There is nothing that I have to say to you regarding this because I dont answer to you and thank goodness for that.
Who are you? There is nothing you have ever said on this forum that bears any weight or importance as far as Im concerned.

Shes not blaming me for this and she did try to do everything in her power to keep it alive. Then when that failed she thought she would share this with you guys and what she got in exchange was a lot of bloodletting by the likes of a lot of you guys. Amazing! Just whan I thought Ive seen it all. Wow!

There are a couple of things I have learned from all this...

1- Buy from only reputable vendors

2- To NEVER EVER present any of this to you guys again. I never realized that the slightest smell of bblood would send you all into such a feeding frenzy.

You guys act like this snake was yours and that she killed your snake. Nothing could be further from the truth on either count no matter what you say. I bought her this snake with my money, not yours and she did NOT kill it. We did not even know this snake was not an established eater until after we tried to feed it. Why am I trying to explain all this to you guys anyway. It's just more blood that will stir up even more of a mad wolf feeding frenzy.

I am sorry that all this was even brought up to begin with.

I was NOT being mean, or cruel, or jumping on anything. But since you asked for it here you go:

I am obviously the idiot because I dont see ANYTHING in this sentence that says "Please help me never to kill another animal"

I am sad my brand new lavader cornsnake refused to eat on the 3rd week I force fed because he was abviously weak he then regurged that back up friday I thawed out a pinky mouse and found him belly up in his water dish! Pleazse no nasty remarks about so called husbandry I know mine was right I believe I got a snake that was not an established eater

What I do see is some lame attempt to get sympathy, and another plea not to criticize her husbandry.

and I don't care a lick how you got this snake or that it died because all of mine are alive and well. All I know is that for someone who is supposed to know so much you messed up and you can't admit it. If this was her first pet then I really can't blame her but by your signature you have how many?

You can choose to put whatever you like on here but don't be all pouty when someone calls you out on all your nonsense

EmbraceCalamity · 11-04-12, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

No! I was just trying to make a point on how childish all this bickering sound.
Everyone here is human and not a single one of us is perfected or free from ever making mistakes. She learned a lesson the hard way and we all have to at one point or another. She now knows what the mistakes were and hopefully they won't be repeated.

I don't think the mistakes are the issues anymore, so much as the making of excuses and getting mad at people for pointing out the mistakes. If I did several stupid things that resulted in the death of my pet, I would deserve the criticism, and I wouldn't make excuses for myself. (Granted, I wouldn't post a thread like this to begin with. See my previous explanation regarding the purpose of the thread.)

~Maggot

exwizard · 11-04-12, 07:58 PM

I reiterate "You guys act like this snake was yours and that she killed your snake. Nothing could be further from the truth on either count no matter what you say. I bought her this snake with my money, not yours and she did NOT kill it. We did not even know this snake was not an established eater until after we tried to feed it. Why am I trying to explain all this to you guys anyway. It's just more blood that will stir up even more of a mad wolf feeding frenzy."

Jay · 11-04-12, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

You're exactly right and this is what we plan on next time and any other subsequent time. Thank you. This piece of advice is actually constructive.

Only because its what you want to hear.

Jlassiter · 11-04-12, 08:03 PM

This thread is another fine example of keyboard commandos having a pissing contest.....
That is the MAIN reason folks don't get good advice for they hate to post questions on a public forum where so called professionals act as though they know all the answers then chastise those just learning.

Such a shame.....sad really....
There is a correct way to point out faults and most on this thread do not understand how to do this, but who really cares, huh? You made your point.

Now, step away from the keyboard and go learn from your animals, not only from what you read on a forum.

Kavyrie · 11-04-12, 08:03 PM

How about we take the stupid bickering and take it to pms and let this thread stay on topic?

To the op: I'm sorry about your loss, I'd be heartbroken if I finally got a snake I had been wanting for a long time and had something like that happen. I hope this doesn't ruin keeping for you, and that after some time that you will try again. Now you know the questions to ask if you decide to go to a show again.

bushsnake · 11-04-12, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

"Pretty much" being the key here Joe.

I did the show circuit for years, a different metro every weekend, pick a city east of the Mississippi river and I have probably done a table or two.

I hung up banners, passed out cards and took pride in my work.

But every single show had at least one or two people who would only do a table in any one city every couple years, no cards, no banners, just a cash box.

Heck, one guy set up his table and put the sheets over everything, it was still an hour before the doors opened, he sat out in his truck snorting coke. I know because I was parked right next to him and I saw it.

Either that or his scratch and sniff CD case smelled really good.

The point is, like I said... not EVERYONE at EVERY show is 100%

Yes, some shows are higher class than others, Can't say I have ever been to Tinley, so my statements are in general..... Anyone with the money for a table can set up at a show.

Im east of the mississippi...what shows have you done? You must of done Lee Watsons show....everyone in the business has been to that show