Burm/ball hybrid - Page 5

Little Wise Owl · 01-21-13, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

I think the hybrids are fine if they are clearly represented as such and the gene pools of pure species are maintained as well. There are some hybrids that cause a lot of problems to the snakes, and are rarely viable, but many of the hybrids do just fine and are really neat-looking.

This.

Back onto the Burm/Ball... I've heard they have very nasty temperaments. They're beautiful though.

Snakeman8 · 01-21-13, 01:37 PM

they do have bad tempers, i saw one up close, man! talk about anger issues!

EmbraceCalamity · 01-21-13, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeman8

they do have bad tempers, i saw one up close, man! talk about anger issues!

I bolded the important part for you.

~Maggot

Snakeman8 · 01-21-13, 01:41 PM

i love hybrids, especially my hybrid rat snake.

Loucifer · 01-21-13, 01:59 PM

I'd rather an angry Burm/Ball over a Spider with Parkinson's, any day!

Snakeman8 · 01-21-13, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Loucifer

I'd rather an angry Burm/Ball over a Spider with Parkinson's, any day!

haha same here!

KORBIN5895 · 01-21-13, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeman8

shouldnt this be considered an intergrade since their in the same genus?
they dont get very big, seven to eight feet adults.
i would love to make a clutch of these, then keep one and sell the rest.
korbin, your oppinon doesnt matter at the moment.

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Opinion? What opinion? I was just stating fact.

Snakeman8 · 01-22-13, 03:46 PM

stay on subject, or is that to hard for you?
anyway, if their in the same genus, it should be considered an intergrade, and no, doesnt depend on what side of the world their on.
i want one.

**Aaron_S** · 01-22-13, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Loucifer

I'd rather an angry Burm/Ball over a Spider with Parkinson's, any day!

LOL...everyone likes to beat up on the morphs. Sour grapes.

**Aaron_S** · 01-22-13, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeman8

stay on subject, or is that to hard for you?
anyway, if their in the same genus, it should be considered an intergrade, and no, doesnt depend on what side of the world their on.
i want one.

LOL...same genus? Okay. You're well educated google opinion doesn't count here. See I can do it too!

Both are pythons. Doesn't mean they should breed.

I'm a purist. If someone wants to breed two species together, awesome. Whatever. I don't care. My problem is when I go to buy a burm or a ball, I DO NOT want the unpure bloodlines for MY breeding projects. Snake hybrids are fertile and can reproduce. Breed the burm/ball to a burm or a ball and you just get really cool looking burms or balls then and could passed off as a unique "pure".

Look at carpet pythons. Plenty are muddled and it's tough to really pick out a purebred. It's sad really. Especially since it's for the "cool factor" solely.

KORBIN5895 · 01-22-13, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeman8

stay on subject, or is that to hard for you?
anyway, if their in the same genus, it should be considered an intergrade, and no, doesnt depend on what side of the world their on.
i want one.

Oh like your ignorant comments about "purists" who are just obeying the laws? Gotcha...

bcr226 · 01-24-13, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

I think the hybrids are fine if they are clearly represented as such and the gene pools of pure species are maintained as well. There are some hybrids that cause a lot of problems to the snakes, and are rarely viable, but many of the hybrids do just fine and are really neat-looking.

Look at what's going on in the Everglades for an example of wild, semi-natural hybridization: the Burmese python population is hybridizing with African rock pythons. The two species are extremely closely related, but the offspring are larger than either parent and have shown to be much hardier and more resistant to the cold winter spells.

Do you have any links to the hybrid burms and rocks? I'm very interested in learning more about that. Especially with them becoming hardier and resistant to cold.

A few years ago, there was a snake found in the Sleepy Creek WMA in WV. The people that found it said it was a rattler but that it didn't look like any of the species found around here. Someone mentioned a possible hybrid between two rattler species here that could have created it. Never heard anything more about it afterwards.

Loucifer · 01-24-13, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

LOL...everyone likes to beat up on the morphs. Sour grapes.

Nah, not all of em. Just the spiders & caramel albinos. Would loooove me a Clown and/or Pied!

Snakeman8 · 01-24-13, 04:42 PM

that snake clearly couldnt be be passed as a pure, only a fool would think it was pure!

GUITARZAN509 · 01-24-13, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

In all fairness - not that I'm defending the hybrids because I don't really care either way - pretty much everything we ever do with herps is messing with mother nature. We keep them in artificial environments, completely stop natural selection, and breed them for specific patterns and morphs.

~Maggot

LOL !! THats not even close to being the same thing !!Some people need to start pulling their head out of the sand ! Breeding things together that arent natural can hurt the hobby, Anything to make an almighty dollor these days i guess