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View Poll Results: Do you consider creating intergrades and/or hybrids a moral or ethical thing?
It's a moral debate 5 19.23%
It's an ethics debate 21 80.77%
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Old 04-05-12, 10:28 PM   #1
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Re: Breeding vs Morals and Ethics

i dont think its either option as well. but ethics seems to be the closest, as i thinks people pick a side of the fense based on what others say how much they dont like it, hense the snow ball effect. I think their is nothing wrong with this, if science didnt agree, then it would not be possible as far as im concened. you CANT breed boes to pythons, so if you went in a lab and made a so called frankenstien snake, then yess i would say thats gone a little too far, but if just putting to compatible species together and getting snakes out of it, whats the big deal. ex, i like all women, black white yeallow, hell if i a chick was green and i liked her, i would give a **** less what anyone thought, and in this day and age everyone seems to see things the same way, or at least racism does not exsist here, thank god! but just a short 100 years ago, people were so narrow minded, they thought each color should be sperate.......same with snakes as far as im concered, a few years from now when more and more people have had success doing this cross breeding, the less uncomon and taboo it will be, i think imho. AS LONG as said snakes are repreisented as what the truly are, Highbreads. and not some **** mix of a snake labeled as a pure what ever.
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Old 04-05-12, 11:04 PM   #2
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...AS LONG as said snakes are repreisented as what the truly are, Highbreads. and not some **** mix of a snake labeled as a pure what ever.
That therein lies the issue. A lot of hybrids just look like a new morph of one parent or the other and lies are always given to what they really are or the babies are bred back to pure strains of one parent line and sold as pure.

Back a number of years people were breeding diamond carpet pythons to jungle carpets and claiming they were pure diamonds because they sold for like $1,000 bucks a pop.
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Old 04-05-12, 11:14 PM   #3
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Re: Breeding vs Morals and Ethics

why do people get so worked up if "their" threads get off topic? good lord if you don't want discussion don't post in public.

i hope that pissy tirade was a joke.

Actually i don't care either way. I'll just talk about elk and snakes as i please.
I tend to agree with korbin, i think it was, on the shedding of antlers and the males mating and all that.

I already said my opinion on snakes. Which i guess moreliaddict was agreeing with..? Since we said basically the same thing.

Hmm anyway my favorite pudding is vanilla. Why do you think that is, when i am strictly a chocolate person when it comes to say, chocolate? I like vanilla cake though. My favorite is white cake with whipped cream frosting.
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in this day and age everyone seems to see things the same way, or at least racism does not exsist here, thank god! but just a short 100 years ago, people were so narrow minded, they thought each color should be sperate.
everyone's a little bit racist, its true...


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I get what you're saying and I have to agree. It muddles things up even more, especially with the likes of carpets in North America.
glad I was able to convey that thought, I wasn't sure how clear I could be without giving specific examples

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That therein lies the issue. A lot of hybrids just look like a new morph of one parent or the other and lies are always given to what they really are or the babies are bred back to pure strains of one parent line and sold as pure.

Back a number of years people were breeding diamond carpet pythons to jungle carpets and claiming they were pure diamonds because they sold for like $1,000 bucks a pop.
and that's where it becomes a slippery slope and dishonest people ruin it for the rest of us. I make it a point to not deal with breeders that engage in those sorts of practices if I find out about them in time. Only reason I'll even entertain the thought of working with them is if they've got something I REALLY want (a dwarf burm for example until I bought my girl, I thought I was going to have to buy from BC, *shudder*)

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why do people get so worked up if "their" threads get off topic? good lord if you don't want discussion don't post in public.

i hope that pissy tirade was a joke.

Actually i don't care either way. I'll just talk about elk and snakes as i please.
I tend to agree with korbin, i think it was, on the shedding of antlers and the males mating and all that.

I already said my opinion on snakes. Which i guess moreliaddict was agreeing with..? Since we said basically the same thing.

Hmm anyway my favorite pudding is vanilla. Why do you think that is, when i am strictly a chocolate person when it comes to say, chocolate? I like vanilla cake though. My favorite is white cake with whipped cream frosting.
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I don't get it either, but whatever. I'm gonna try and get to the museum on campus on Wednesday and take some pictures of the impressive Irish Elk skeleton they have mounted and share it with you guys.

I love mixed vanilla/chocolate pudding. I'm a sucker for strawberry jello cake personally, or rum cake, or better-than-sex cake. All three are fantastic options.

Although those last two discussion topics are probably a little TOO off topic. Back to the breeding discussion...
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I agree with Gregg 100%. I was going to say something snarky, but I changed my mind. The tread is now dead and you brought it back by responding to Gregg. Just pointing that out.
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Re: Breeding vs Morals and Ethics

haha good point millertime.

So CDN...i'd like to know why you think greg is arrogant...but are acting like you are not? I do believe you're the one that got fussy that people even talked on *your* thread. I mean i can only assume you are being ironic...
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