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11-18-11, 09:56 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
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I have called and left a voice mail with the event organizer so that she'll call me back. I'll let you know if I successfully get him out of that expo!
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if you could find others who bought sick snakes from this guy,it would go a long way as to getting him banned from expo's
i really hope you get him banned from expo's for life
all the best shaun
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01-23-12, 03:43 PM
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
The long-awaited update...I finally got the results back from the necropsy!
THE FINDINGS:
- hemorrhage into the coelom with white foci in the skeletal muscle and tissue firmness cranial to the heart
- kidneys were enlarged and pale
- the liver was diffusely congested.
- mild infiltration of lymphoid cells and some degenerate granulocytic leukocytes int he portal triads (these are associated with cell debris and fibrin)
- the lungs were congested
- the spleen was mildly autolyzed (disintegration of the cells)
- the pancreas was severely autolyzed. In areas where of the pancreas is less autolyzed, there was extensive inflammation and necrosis. There is cell debris, fibrin, edema, and viable and degenerate heterophilis as feel as clusters of lymphoid cells.
- intestines were mildly autolyzed
- the kidney is supporting multiple irate to phi, which are characterized by pale material surrounded by cell debris.
- extensive interstitial fibrosis and mucinous degeneration in the kidney
- gallbladdar was severely autolyzed
DIAGNOSIS:
1. Kidney: severe diffuse actue to subacute tubulointerstitial nephritis with urate tophi.
2. Pancreas: focally extensive acute necrotizing pancreatitis.
Additional comments:
The snake had severe renal disease. Both kidneys were severely affected. Possible additional cause: paramyxovirus; but needs more testing to be determined.
In conclusion...
The snake was in fact sold to me VERY sick. Yes, I am taking this to court ASAP to be resolved with the "breeder." Yes, he will be banned from most (if not all) Pennsylvania reptile expos and shows. Yes, I will keep you posted if I win the case. Thanks for keeping up, guys! It's a sad story, but hopefully everyone learns something out of it.
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01-23-12, 03:45 PM
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Non Carborundum Illegitimi
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
Glad to see you are taking this to its conclusion - good luck with the courts!!
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01-23-12, 03:48 PM
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The Mad Scot
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
Good luck Alessia. Get a good lawyer and kick his a$$ in court. Keep us posted
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01-23-12, 03:51 PM
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
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Originally Posted by Swany
Good luck Alessia. Get a good lawyer and kick his a$$ in court. Keep us posted
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I'm going to small claims court. No lawyers allowed
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01-23-12, 03:56 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
You don't need a lawyer your a smart cookie!
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01-23-12, 04:48 PM
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Member of the family
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
wow. that poor snake. 
Do you have any photos or videos of the behavior it exhibited after you purchased it?
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01-23-12, 05:03 PM
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
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Originally Posted by jaleely
wow. that poor snake. 
Do you have any photos or videos of the behavior it exhibited after you purchased it?
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Unfortunately, no... That's the one thing I regret the most. But I have all the e-mails from between the breeder and I, the vet records, and the necropsy results in print.
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01-23-12, 07:06 PM
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queen of the Chicken Dance
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
Good luck Alessia!!
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01-24-12, 03:51 AM
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
That should do, then. Ugh i'l never understand someone letting animals in their care get sick like that..let along *selling* it to someone else...and selling it as a healthy pet! Just...arrrrrgh!
Go get'em alessia! LOL
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27 snakes (7 sand boas, 4 hognose, 5 ball pythons, 1 bolivian boa, 2 dumeril's boas, 2 carpet pythons, 5 garters, 1 corn snake), 1 cave spider, 9 tarantulas, 1 tokay gecko, 2 dogs, 2 frogs, emperor scorpions 1,000 dubia roaches, & tons of fish.
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01-24-12, 08:45 AM
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Snake Child
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
Good luck, do you have a court date?
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01-24-12, 08:51 AM
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
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Originally Posted by youngster
Good luck, do you have a court date?
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Not yet. I had to wait for the necropsy results before I could go down there and make an appointment.
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01-24-12, 08:56 AM
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The Original Urban Legend
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
Good luck- I'll be rooting for you. Too many "big sellers" in the reptile world think they can just slip a few sick animals or misrepresented ones through. They get too big for their britches, and figure they do enough volume of business that one bad issue can't affect them....now they'll end up paying far more than the initial cost refund they could have paid to avoid all of this. Hopefully word will get out, and send a message that these people can't get away with neglecting their animals and selling them.
Alessia, have you started a BOI Bad Guy thread? If not, you definitely need to do so to get word of this out.
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01-24-12, 08:59 AM
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
I just read this, I'm sorry you had to go through it Alessia. But I'm equally glad that you're standing up for yourself.
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01-24-12, 10:49 PM
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Re: Sick Rosy Boa
Good for you but even if he is banned from expos/shows there he will change the name of his company and no one will notice him it is said but true
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