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Old 02-03-05, 11:58 PM   #61
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Thought it out with a budget of 15K, hmmmmm.

Poss. Super Ghost Boa
Arabesque Boa
Pastel Albino Boa
Sunglow Boa

This group hits that scale already but its only 4 boas

Was chatting with a friend this second option is also very nice and all 7 would be a group.

Poss. Super Ghost Boa
Sharp Albino Boa
Jungle (none abberant) Boa
Poss. Super Salmon Boa
Pair - 100% Het Sharp Albino Boas
Arabesque Boa (high end)

Still not 8 but close enough, loads of color and pattern in this group.

Oh well this was fun figuring this out.



Tony

.........Now my question is why would he want a sunglow if he had one?...and if he wanted another one, Tony of all people would specify what sex he wanted....I sure would like him to write back to all "questions and concerns" seeing as he always has that on his posts....this isnt fishy to me and a few people i know...this is reality...him taking pictures putting his copyright on them and saying they are his....Tony i seriously suggest you do come forward and show everyone some pictures of your "snow" and "sunglow" with a newspaper or maybe somthing with your name on it...there is alot of people that havnt posted that really want to know the truth about you....i know the truth...and so do some friends....make it clear to everyone please....im glad this is out in the open....The truth will come out!!

Dont mean to keep posting but you told stories about me that werent true and now its time for everyone to know the truth about Tony Pharosx.......Cheers!!....:-)
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Old 02-04-05, 12:33 AM   #63
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On a relaxing weekend where the tolls of life are taken back with some easy chilling time with the collection, thought to share "RA" the Sunglow Boa.
Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be implications there that HE was spending 'chilling time' with 'the collection'... Or are we to believe that the person who has this snake was spending the 'chilling time' with his collection???

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Personally, if the accusations were false, I don't think I would give the accusing mob what they want right away. Nope, if my reputation had already been tarnished (as Tony's has at this point) I would want a price to be paid by my false accusers. I think I would demand that if I were to provide such exculpatory evidence that the accusers each post a pic of themselves wearing nothing but their own most prized snake and a sign that says "Tony's snakes are better than mine, I was just playa hatin' ".
Exactly, dead on. I would do the exact same thing...who are you guys that would make me have to prove ANYthing.
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Exactly, dead on. I would do the exact same thing...who are you guys that would make me have to prove ANYthing.
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Old 02-04-05, 12:57 AM   #66
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If you ever plan to sell 10k snakes, it might be in your best interest to have a fairly clean reputation. That's all.

But there is something to be said for your outlook. It's not mine but I know people like that.
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Old 02-04-05, 01:16 AM   #67
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Just going to put an idea out there...isn't it possible that Tony acquired photos of the boa(s) in question, before buying them, and just posted those photos? I mean, maybe he hasn't had the chance to take photos of his own yet...who knows, but like someone said earlier, innocent until proven guilty. Nonetheless, it's a gorgeous animal.

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Old 02-04-05, 01:19 AM   #68
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I wasn't saying that he shouldn't clear his own name, in fact I think at this point if he wants to sell snakes in the future it would only be in his best interest to do so, again assuming that he is being falsely accused. Whether anyone thinks it's fair or not that is the position Tony is in and he is the only one who can get himself out of this.

What I was saying is that if it isn't true then he should get Matt, Tim and whoever to bet their own dignity on it and make them look like petty douche bags for starting this whole thing, out of what must have been sheer malice, when he posts the pictures that clear his name.

On the other hand if he is a giant BSer and has been exposed as such by casual observation then he deserves what he's getting... at this point he'd might as well 'fess up now if that's the case and let time bury all of this. Why prolong the agony?
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Anyway, i'll shut up until Tony replies.

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Still haven't seen Tony's reply.......lol
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What I was saying is that if it isn't true then he should get Matt, Tim and whoever to bet their own dignity on it and make them look like petty douche bags for starting this whole thing, out of what must have been sheer malice, when he posts the pictures that clear his name.
That is exactly what all of you want...I was thinking by him not doing anything though he is only feeding the wolves. I would personally fess up but who are we to make it necessary to prove anything, like I said. If business is going the same then why care?
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What I was saying is that if it isn't true then he should get Matt, Tim and whoever to bet their own dignity on it and make them look like petty douche bags for starting this whole thing, out of what must have been sheer malice, when he posts the pictures that clear his name.
Not sure when I started all of this.. Could have sworn it was Ryan that brought it all up..

timfriesen32 - I meant i'd shut up as to whether they're his pictures or not..
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Matt,
Fair enough, bad choice of words. I'm not sure who made the initial call of shenanigans. If I am wrong about you being one of the people who have made an accusation I retract that as well.

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I don't want a thing from Tony, I was just making the observation that it was up to him to end this crap one way or the other or this will just carry on every time he posts a picture. Like you said, his silence only invites more ridicule. It makes no difference to me which is true, I know all of my snakes are real. lol!
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I beleive I made the initial call of shenanigans.

Ever since Tony got his Snow boa, he never sent me any pictures of it. He wanted my het for snow female, but still wouldn't send pictures.

Finally when pictures were posted, they did not seem like his average pictures - and that is when I started to be suspicious. I had reason to beleive he lied to me, and I do not take that lightly.

Over Christmas, this was brought up and Tony tried to make accusations to point eyes at others, and take the eyes off him. If you did not get a chance to read the many pages of crap, consider yourself lucky.

So, now I found that the sunglow pictures (which were just as suspicious) and the snow boa pictures were taken some time ago and with a different camera than all his other pictures of stuff he actually has.

If I was Tony, i"d be taking pictures of them with a newspaper or me holding them (and I'd definitely be giving the finger!) - but for some reason, we have not heard from Tony, and he has removed most of his pictures.

I've made my decision on what has gone on, and I have all the "proof" I personally need.

I honestly thought Tony would try to defend himself, or try to throw mud on me in defense, I am actually suprised that he is not posting (probably waiting for this to die down).

What I suspect, is he has paid for the snakes, has trouble getting them to Canada, almost moved to the U.S because of it, and just wants to show them off. He could have been honest about it, but he wasn't, and he is taking credit for taking the pictures (copyright on them) - which is very wrong and dishonest. He seems to get caught up in "who has the nicest snakes" and feels the need to post all kinds of pictures to make his fan club happy - even if the pictures are not his.

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Let's get one thing straight right now. Tony started this mess, not Matt, Tim, Me or Ryan or any one else. He put him self out there what did he expect. No one asked him to post 20 pics a day.
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Old 02-04-05, 08:15 AM   #75
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Trevor,

If Tony's lying about having the snakes then you're right, it's no one's fault but his own that someone picked up on it.

The only problem here is that while it would be quite easy for him to prove that he had them, if he did, it remains much harder to prove that someone doesn't have something. You can't prove a negative. Impossible to prove that something doesn't exist whether it's a snake or Bigfoot.

The only person who can prove anything isn't talking... what is the uninvolved, objective observer to think? I'm afraid that the longer it goes the worse it looks on Tony.
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