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01-29-05, 06:12 PM
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Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Yes, you can teach a goldfish to go through a maze, same as a rat (food motivated). Though not all of them learn as quickly as others.....
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I wouldnt think so since it has a memory of like 3 seconds (somebody else said that on the thread)
The rat in the maze finds the cheese on its own, instead of putting the cheese in front of it and slowly moving it away... it learns from trial and error... somthing a goldfish cant do.
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01-29-05, 06:18 PM
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Location: United States
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I had a large golfish before which I chose to keep as a pet as i got attactheched, he remembered what he had to do for food (bang on the opening), he remembered where I fed him, He remembered the foods he did and did not like, he also remembered what I the net means...... I stongly believe they can remember things for much longer than 3 seconds.
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01-29-05, 06:47 PM
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#63
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Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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qwouldnt that be long term memory?
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01-29-05, 06:49 PM
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I would say they have long term memory as many other animals.
Post 400 w00t
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02-11-05, 01:37 AM
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Maybe there is nothing wrong with feeding live,but this video is just shot for thrills.I do feed live sometimes,but i don't video it and post it.These guys posted it so they could sit back and watch everyone argue over wether it's cruel or not.I think this video is shot by some young kids who think it's cool to watch an animal suffer.That is what i think is wrong with this video.Tgis is a great site,lets not fight over some immature kids who don't know any better.
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02-11-05, 09:28 AM
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Location: etobicoke
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What about those horrific beheadings in Iraq, and the horrors of 911. It appears that all lives have become cheap, animal and human. Someday maybe we'll also become desensitized, so we could sit back and enjoy watching someones pain and suffering.
Paul.
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02-11-05, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: near Windsor, Ontario
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I haven't viewed the link and doubt that I will, the descriptions are bad enough. I think that people who do these kinds of things fall into the Geek factor sector of our hobby/ interest and are better left marginalized. It is insulting to have people exibiting such repugnant poor taste and don't doubt for a second that it reflects on the rest of us when the general public view disgraceful things.
It is hard enough to have any credibility in society without things like this going on. Better to denounce it.
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02-11-05, 10:33 AM
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Location: ON
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I'll put in my two cents.
There is a HUGE difference between national geographic showing lions eating a live baby elephant and this video. One is observation of nature for the purposes of education. The filmakers are passive witnesses to the suffering of an animal in nature.
In this video, the filmakers have engineered a situation where an animal will suffer needlessly, which is bad enough, but then they film it and post it for the whole world to see in the name of entertainment. This is wrong on so many levels. These people are responsible not only for the fishies, but for the rat that is in their care. Clearly the rat must die...it's food after all, but why allow it to be tortured just because that sort of thing may occurr in nature? Pirahnas eat carrion in the wild. They will attack and eat live animals, but this is not as common as you might think.
So, call me a bleeding heart if you like, but I think it's morally sketchy at best to engineer a gruesome and painfull death for an animal in your care when a more humane method is available. I think it's just plain sick to film it for entertainment.
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02-11-05, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Nov-2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Age: 95
Posts: 110
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Originally posted by Matt_K
While I find the fact that people felt the need to video tape this to be disturbing. I DONT find the fact that they fed their fish a live mouse at all disturbing.
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I think we're all a bit morbid (def: having or showing an unusual
interest in sad or unpleasant things). The fact that there are so many views in spit of the title sick video-extremely graghic
proves my point.
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