Action being taken with pit bulls - Page 5

PaulBar · 08-31-04, 09:54 PM

Pit Bulls were bred to fight and as a result are a little mental, just like most of their owners.

They should be banned.

Paul

NewLineReptile · 09-01-04, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by marisa
What they should license is ANYONE who wants to own a dog.

ANY dog can become a monster, and attack someone. Not just pits. But the general public likes to rid itself of anything they think is the problem, except themselves. The owners are as much to blame in ANY dog attack as a dog is.

Pit bulls have passed temperment tests as much or more often than so called "friendly" breeds. But low and behold, you never hear about a lab bite even though many many do in fact happen.

Marisa

I 100% agree good points in there Marisa

Brandon

justinO · 08-30-04, 04:57 PM

a lot of people here keep more then reptiles as pets. We all care about the health and welfare of our pets.

This is a general forum. if you notice, a lot of the threads here do not relate to herps at all.

crucified · 08-30-04, 08:15 PM

i didnt read much of the post of what ppl said just cuz i am too damn lazy..
anyways i think its crap to ban a breed.. kill BSL...
you cant ban one breed and let another one wander around... if you ban one dog.. you ban them all... sure american pit bull terriers have a bad rap... sure their blood line and purpose of being around has been distorted... if you buy from a crap breeder... bad those people.. dont support them.. with their fighting pits and guard dog pits.. american pit bull terrier were never meant to attack ppl.. old standards claim that any american pit bull terrier that has bitten a human was instantly put down and was to not have that bred into the blood line... show dog pits are excellent dogs as their instinct to fight has been distorted so they arent aggressive and can be entered in show... amstaffs and staffy bulls are pit bulls (pit bull being a group of a breed of dogs... pit bull also refering to fighting dog.. as the correct term for the breed is american pit bull terrier.. cuz any dog can be a 'pit bull' if you toss it into a ring.. both are just bait dogs.. and no i am not for fighting dogs.. i am very well against it) as well.. just more mellow and not used as fighting dogs.. and i dont know where i am going here.. anyways... labs and retrievers attack more humans than american pit bull terriers do... people just dont want to hear about americans best family pet ( being a lab and retriever) attacking people.. so they claim that monster attack is an american pit bull terrier when they arent always american pit bull terrier.. or rotts.. or dobermans.. or german shepherds.. etc... its just a big media hype... we all need a nightmare and monster terrorizing the news.. i have heard of labs almost killing ppl out here and they dont make the news.. a pit looks at someone the wrong way.. front page... the alaskan malamute is responsible for the most human deaths yearly.. and a chihuahua is more prone to attack a human than an american pit bull terrier is.. so yes.. i think banning a breed is crap.. cuz it gets you nowhere but a mob of angry pit lovers trying to save the breed and give it a good name as best as they can.. its just the few bad ones.. or mistakes that set us back 20 steps for every step we get ahead... ok i hope this made sense.. cuz i dont want to read it back myself.. hahaha..

crucified · 08-30-04, 08:27 PM

in the case of apbt's.. its not just what they are taught... there are generations of breeding that have planted the instinct in them to fight... you may have a great puppy... very socialable with other dogs.. once it matures at 3-4 yrs old.. its instincts to fight might kick in then you have a dog that cant be socialized... dont get me wrong... i love apbts.. im pro-apbts... but... it is the ugly truth about them... most dogs have an ugly truth about the breed... socialization is the best thing an apbt can get... as it may not have the instincts kick or it may just be so used to socializing.. it wont want to fight... but as with any dogs.. apbts especially.... they should always be monitored no matter what.. if they are playing with other dogs.. even if they are the most well behaved dogs.. cuz something could case'em to take the rough play one step farther even if its not intended too.. . but all precautions and safe play should be placed on all dogs.. just not all dogs are instinctivly bred to kill another dogs... and have the strength at that.. remember the pit bull group is the only breed with weight pull competitions.. and those little 45 lb pit bulls do pull well over 2000lbs.. and other breeds cant..

crucified · 08-30-04, 09:55 PM

ryan.. that is correct.. ive heard that before.. forgot to make mention... the way to train a pit bull to become a guard dog is to lock it up in a basement for 1 -2 yrs without seeing anyone but you... it knows nothing.. and those how it becomes aggressive.. its just poor socialization.. they do get spooked easily...
but what do i know.. haha.. not much

Collide · 09-01-04, 02:58 PM

I have been reading all this and think that is all the owners,

another thing for those who have worked in shelters ect.. think of what u are exposed too all dogs who are neglicted abused mistreated, how can u judg any of those dogs on a well breed and raised dog.

look at the stats on kids that grow up in abusive homes, juvie, and foster care, there statistacally more likly to hurt other people and be criminal, sure not all are, but what is the dif.

i dont trust myself around anyones dog untill i get to know them its a animal, nor do i trust people till i get to know them. we are all animals.

meow_mix450 · 08-30-04, 04:50 PM

Hey

This is probly gonna start a argrument but i hope it doesnt get big. Today on the news there were 2 pit bulls shot down cause i think that it attacked someone. Now someone is planning on doing something about it(government?), that thing maybe ban pitpulls, this isnt a 100% sure. But city tv is a phone poll and around 2200 people say ban pitbulls from the city and 1800 said no. What do you guys think and amybe some of you can fix my facts.

I think that they should get people to earn a license or something, banning pit bulls is a going to upset a lot of pitbull owners. I saw we dont ban it

Meow

meow_mix450 · 08-30-04, 04:55 PM

http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Stor...0-016/page.asp

Yes its a reptile stie but this fourm is whatever goes, i think anyway

Meow

meow_mix450 · 08-30-04, 04:59 PM

This here is an airline story
http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/nationa...ogs020819.html

Story im talkinga bout now
http://toronto.cbc.ca/regional/servl...tbulls20040830

Meow

ChokeOnSmoke · 08-30-04, 06:05 PM

First I love pitbulls, they are beautiful dogs. I see nothing wrong with owning them but...
I have to agree with V.hb. Pitbulls were bred to to fight. I dont think they should be banned it would do nothing. Maybe a liscensing is a good idea but I think the people who actually got it would be the responsible people in the first place and the irresponsible people just wouldn't get it. Even if they were to ban them there are many other powerful dogs irresponsible dog owners could easily get.
Labs being in the top three bites might have something to do with them being the one of the top two most popular dogs breeds for almost 15 years. That being said, a lab in an idiots is just as just as bad as a pitbull. The only difference being a pitbull attack in theory is going to be much worse.

ChokeOnSmoke · 08-30-04, 07:58 PM

CamHanna how have you been bit by so many dogs. Do you run around with steaks taped to your body? No seriously? Have you had any bad wounds? I'm 22 and yet to bitten once and I doubt I ever will.
Kimo, intresting info. Bear baiting isn't the same as a hunting dog "treeing" a bear though. Its a bunch of dogs attacking a bear thats restrained for entertainment purposes.

HeRpZ03 · 08-30-04, 04:53 PM

Well pitbulls do have a bad rep and i do agree something has to be done but nothing as serious as banning them. The license sounds good but would it work? Personally i feel that they shouldn't ban pit bulls, they can make great and wonderful pets, there's just those unfortunate accidents that sometimes happens that no one can avoid. We just got to learn to live with it. Just my two cents

HeRpZ03 · 08-30-04, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by leoncurrie
Just curious... what does this post have to do with reptiles? I mean this is a reptile site isn't it?

The subject of the forum is "Anything goes.. (If there isnt another forum for your thread)" So any other topics are usually covered here.

HeRpZ03 · 08-30-04, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by marisa
What they should license is ANYONE who wants to own a dog.

ANY dog can become a monster, and attack someone. Not just pits. But the general public likes to rid itself of anything they think is the problem, except themselves. The owners are as much to blame in ANY dog attack as a dog is.

Pit bulls have passed temperment tests as much or more often than so called "friendly" breeds. But low and behold, you never hear about a lab bite even though many many do in fact happen.

Marisa

Great post! the idea about everyone having to get a license makes sense, but the downside, dog owners would demand every "pet" owner to get a license. If we go down on the dog owners they're goin to take everyone else with them. But i wouldn't mind having to get a license, would rid the hobby of most those irresponsible owners. The only problem is, is it rational, achievable, and would it work?