My ACE prefers cold? - Page 5

SSSSnakes · 12-25-14, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Minkness

And if info is wrong, then state it, link to the correct info, and move on, don't turn it into a silly debate.

Toodles!

THE PERSON CHALLENGING THE CORRECTNESS OF THE INFO, IS NOT THE ONE THAT HAS TO PROVE THE STATEMENT TO BE TRUE. Here we have people posting incorrect info and refusing to admit it is their opinion and not fact, by not backing up the statement. This is not the first time this person has done this. This is how misinformation gets passed on as fact. If the debating bothers anyone, then they can stop reading the thread. Some people on here are just trying to get to the truth.

CrotalusR#1 · 12-25-14, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pdomensis

I honestly wasn't trying to stir up anything. I'm relatively new to snakes and wasnt aware of any boa related deaths, just large pythons. If there are incidents, I'd like to hear about it so I have my facts straight when people ask or make accusations.

The incidents I'm referring to are in a book and the name is slipped my mine. I'm in SoCal on vacation. When I get back I can either take pictures or something so that way you can read about them... Pretty interesting what there saying happened... They happened while the owners where asleep to.

Obsidian_Dragon · 12-26-14, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace4me

And if he was so deprived and miserable out roaming around, why, with the newly improved closet home is he crawling all over the closed door wanting out??? Don't answer that.

I'm gonna answer it anyway. Snakes are always trying to escape their enclosure. It's just what they DO.

I'm no snake mind reader, but I'd guess: they're opportunistic eaters and there's possible opportunities to eat someplace-not-there, so they keep trying. They're not exactly brilliant animals who realize futility or the things we do for their own good.

I love my scale children, but I don't see why it's so hard for some people to see that these animals are not dogs/cats.

marvelfreak · 12-26-14, 11:16 AM

For the record Anaconda are boas so i am sure there have been a few death by boas.

SSSSnakes · 12-26-14, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

For the record Anaconda are boas so i am sure there have been a few death by boas.

They are in the same family but we are not talking about the same snake. The snake in question is Constrictor constrictor and not Eunectes murinus.

**Minkness** · 12-26-14, 11:52 AM

Anacondas are boas? O_O

Woah.....mind....blown....

CrotalusR#1 · 12-26-14, 12:41 PM

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This is not the first time this person has done this.

It's not my opinion first of all.

So let's here where I have done this before unless this is just your opinion you need to show us write?? According to you, you do. So do it. Let's see it SSSSnakes.

marvelfreak · 12-26-14, 12:58 PM

Here are are the facts. http://www.rexano.org/Statistics/Con...e_Fatality.pdf

This shows all recorded death by large constrictors. Only one by a Boa Constrictor and it says under the one chart that some news stations mislabeled the snake.

CrotalusR#1 · 12-26-14, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Here are are the facts. http://www.rexano.org/Statistics/Con...e_Fatality.pdf

This shows all recorded death by large constrictors. Only one by a Boa Constrictor and it says under the one chart that some news stations mislabeled the snake.

That's only for the USA write?

marvelfreak · 12-26-14, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

That's only for the USA write?

Yeah it the only thing i could fine.

CrotalusR#1 · 12-26-14, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Yeah it the only thing i could fine.

Cool page tho. I know 2 of the three that are talked in this book aren't in the USA. The other is I'm the USA and has Ben talked about in this thread.

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This is not the first time this person has done this.

So let's here where I have done this before unless this is just your opinion you need to show us write?? According to you, you do. So do it. Let's see it SSSSnakes.

SSSSnakes · 12-26-14, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CrotalusR#1

It's not my opinion first of all.

So let's here where I have done this before unless this is just your opinion you need to show us write?? According to you, you do. So do it. Let's see it SSSSnakes.

When you were identifying a snake from another country you stated that you were 100% correct what the snake was. When asked to prove it you said, I have seen many of them and I am correct. Correct or not you did not prove anything. Saying a snake looks like a picture is not Identifying a snake. They go by scale counts and location where the snake was found.

The thread is in general discussions, titled, Help identifying a snake

CrotalusR#1 · 12-26-14, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

When you were identifying a snake from another country you stated that you were 100% correct what the snake was. When asked to prove it you said, I have seen many of them and I am correct. Correct or not you did not prove anything. Saying a snake looks like a picture is not Identifying a snake. They go by scale counts and location where the snake was found.

The thread is in general discussions, titled, Help identifying a snake

That's like showing a picture of a damn ball python and saying well prove it or it's not a ball python.. It was just completely obvious and another member agreed with exactly what I was saying and said the same thing.... That's exactly what it was there's no reason for me to explain it.

This is what another member said.

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Originally Posted by raidcrasher

I totally agree. After 30 years and having seen thousands of these, my best guess is a obsoleta. Its just an experience thing.

You just did what you have accused me of doing!

Thanks for unknowingly using your self as an example for what you think I did.

At this point this should just stop, is it worth wasting any more time on this thread? Not really so can we just drop it's and move on?

FWK · 12-26-14, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Here are are the facts. http://www.rexano.org/Statistics/Con...e_Fatality.pdf

This shows all recorded death by large constrictors. Only one by a Boa Constrictor and it says under the one chart that some news stations mislabeled the snake.

This list is incomplete, only covering 1990-2012. I'm pretty sure the total number for the US is still 17 including the highly suspect salmonella case and another incident where the keeper suffered a heart attack while dealing with a large Retic. The number for North America is 23, the incident with the two boys CrotulasR#1 mentioned occurred in Canada.

CrotalusR#1 · 12-26-14, 02:29 PM

I'm trying to find an overall statistic
Not one just basses out of the USA.