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04-03-13, 11:23 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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ya I guess I would have to agree either way then, burn or scale rot would both be red, but scale rot would be mostly red right around the rot, where as if it was a burn that size the whole belly would be rather red like a sunburn imho, but it looks like its getting better, the skin after being damaged to this extent will never heal fully, it will have shed out over time at this point, most likely not even be able notice it after a year I bet.
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Hi, from the few that I`ve seen, burns usually turn black/dark brown not red, just as in the photos, either way, so long as there`s no infection it should heal quite quickly. If they are burns rather than scale rot, any discolouration will remain long term, but that`s purely cosmetic.
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04-03-13, 11:43 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Yikes, a 10 gallon with newspaper. Thats brutal. Whatever the cause (burn/rot) that situation would have lowered its immunity quite badly and left it unable to fight off the infection it has since gotten. That is the part you are having to deal with as a result. Its great that you have improved her situation so much, and Im sure that you are seeing the improvement in her behaviour as well. My hope is that its immune system will recover enough to allow it to fight off this infection. However, if it is a scale rot, there is the very real possibility that it might not be able to fight off the infection without help. That is why I would look around to try to find a good reptile vet. Most vets will not know much about monitors specifically, but should be able to reasonably give you an assessment on how the infection is doing and offer some antibiotics to aid with the recovery. If you have the money to pay for a xray/ultrasound to determine if the animal is female/gravid, then I would to that as well. It may not be that its fat, it could also be that it is simply gravid, and thats something youll want to know right away.
As for feeding it, your monitor is a little fat and most likely dehydrated, so I would say stick with food items that are lower in fat and high in water content. So crayfish, nightcrawlers and hornworms are a great staple to start with, and in that order. Depending on where you are, these should either be easy to find in a big pet store or you can order them cheaper in bulk online. You can add other items like grasshoppers, roaches, phoenix worms, and certain types of fish, but I would just use these occasionally in addition to those others I mentioned first. I wouldnt bother with things like crickets, mealworms, butterworms or the like. They arent overly nutritious and require a good deal of moisture to digest.
As for how much, it depends on what your animal is behaving like. How much is it eating right now? Any idea at all how old it is or how long the previous owner had it? As murrindindi said, at that length it is a mature animal, so I would say for now, to feed it every other day.
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04-03-13, 11:59 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
shes supposedly 5 months old. 16.5 inches. She would eat non stop if i let her. But shes not so interested right now.
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04-03-13, 11:59 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
i feed her every other day but im not positive as to how much
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04-03-13, 12:10 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Oh, well thats a little younger than I thought. I was thinking she was more like a year old and just stunted in growth a bit. I would say you could still feed her every day if its that young. Since you have boosted the temps up to where they should be, her metabolism should be back to normal. As for how much, again that is sort of up to you to read the behaviour. Feed it until you start to notice it taking a little longer to grab the food from you. They can eat a huge amount when properly kept!
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04-03-13, 03:14 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
She will easily eat 35 superworms non-stop, shes an oinker. Shes definitely feeling better now that im doing the betadine and ointment. Shes hissing at me and she has 2 borrows going.
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04-03-13, 03:56 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
thats a lot of super worms.. those aren't very good in nutrition i would switch to night crawlers instead.
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04-03-13, 03:59 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Yeah I know! Ok, Ill try her on nightcrawlers. Shes not interested in the superworms right now anyways. She used to love them but now she just wants mice. So ill try her on nightcrawlers.
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04-03-13, 04:04 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Yeah I know! Ok, Ill try her on night crawlers. Shes not interested in the super worms right now anyways. She used to love them but now she just wants mice. So ill try her on night crawlers.
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mine goes through stages where he doesn't want anything but mice, then decides he likes night crawlers, i apologize for the previous post it was supposed to say aren't** very good for them.. not are, i have corrected it. My monitor gets Whole ORGANIC shrimp with heads and tails still on, since he doesn't eat them alone i dip them in egg and he loves it, also he loves night crawlers. i also have a roach colony going he absolutely loves them and they are good for them too..
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04-03-13, 05:06 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Yuck, no roaches for me haha, but im definitely going to try the night crawlers
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04-03-13, 05:49 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
What about like feeder fish. The kind for turtles. Are those good for savannahs as well?
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04-03-13, 06:33 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Zazu's tunnel with an entrance and exit
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04-03-13, 08:23 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
im glad it is digging, but im a little confused? you are taking all these pictures of your lizard and the dirt and stuff but they are all macro shots.. why haven't you showed us a picture of the whole enclosure yet?
as for the feeder fish, gold fish are very fatty i would suggest some silver sliders. they are good
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04-03-13, 08:30 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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im glad it is digging, but im a little confused? you are taking all these pictures of your lizard and the dirt and stuff but they are all macro shots.. why haven't you showed us a picture of the whole enclosure yet?
as for the feeder fish, gold fish are very fatty i would suggest some silver sliders. they are good
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Deadly, you make me laugh every time I read your 'enclosure suspicion posts '
Silver side not slide
But yea I would like to see some full enclosure shots as well, just because I like to see full enclosure shots though :-P
Oh and I wouldn't give goldfish that much credit, they arent really fatty. A few bones, and bag of fish flakes and poop, covered in scales is more appropriate
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04-03-13, 08:33 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Deadly, you make me laugh every time I read your 'enclosure suspicion posts '
Silver side not slide
But yea I would like to see some full enclosure shots as well, just because I like to see full enclosure shots though :-P
Oh and I wouldn't give goldfish that much credit, they arent really fatty. A few bones, and bag of fish flakes and poop, covered in scales is more appropriate
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You beat me to it.. What's with this new suspicion of everyone?
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