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01-04-13, 05:08 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
Nope.. I did as well after I posted it.
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01-04-13, 05:18 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
i agree royals pythons make good beginner pets, i have two of them and have had little trouble even with the little one who was abused when she was younger. I will avoid owning retics on the base i don't want any snake over 15ft for my own personal reasons.
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01-04-13, 05:40 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
I have experienced quite the opposite with the hundreds of corns I've seen in my days. It's true that garters are solid but the corns are just as active as they are also diurnal.
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In my experience there is quite a difference in activity between garters and corns. Both are definite diurnal, but garters are very responsive, and tend to interact with each other and their environment a lot. As far as the display side of things are concerned, garters are a step up from corns, IMHO.
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01-04-13, 08:12 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
My first snake was a bp and I thought she is great. Yes a bit boring but you don't want a lively one to start with, retic s are dear to house and feed and not everyone do enough research. Retics require a lot more than balls. But core, balls and king snakes are still good beginner snakes
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01-05-13, 08:44 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
My BP is probably the most unintelligent creature I've ever come across.
It's actually a wonder that BP's manage to even survive in the wild. This live adult mouse has been in her enclosure for 2 and a half hours now and outsmarted her at every turn. The snake deserves to be preyed upon, the mouse is a winner in my book. We'll see how long it takes for her to get eaten though...
I'm getting sick and tired of supervising such a long ordeal. Another reason BP's suck... I don't have all night to watch this feed. She went off Frozen/thawed completely at 6 months ish. Could never get her back on them. $50-60 of wasted F/T food. I'll say it again, I don't think BP's make good beginner snakes.
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01-05-13, 08:47 PM
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Village Idiot
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
Royals are stewped!
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01-05-13, 08:58 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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Originally Posted by limey
My BP is probably the most unintelligent creature I've ever come across.
It's actually a wonder that BP's manage to even survive in the wild. This live adult mouse has been in her enclosure for 2 and a half hours now and outsmarted her at every turn. The snake deserves to be preyed upon, the mouse is a winner in my book. We'll see how long it takes for her to get eaten though...
I'm getting sick and tired of supervising such a long ordeal. Another reason BP's suck... I don't have all night to watch this feed. She went off Frozen/thawed completely at 6 months ish. Could never get her back on them. $50-60 of wasted F/T food. I'll say it again, I don't think BP's make good beginner snakes.
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Another reason I use tubs. The mouse has no real place to go and if the snake is hungry then it's game over real quick. Luckily, I don't have issues of my snakes going off F/T.
If the snake isn't showing interest then remove the mouse.
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01-05-13, 08:59 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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Royals are stewped!
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Can't wait to be done with her. It's more entertaining watching the mouse, think she would make a better pet!
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01-05-13, 09:02 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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Can't wait to be done with her. It's more entertaining watching the mouse, think she would make a better pet!
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Rats. If you want an intelligent pet, get a rat.
~Maggot
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01-05-13, 09:08 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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Rats. If you want an intelligent pet, get a rat.
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I was being sarcastic. But yes, that's what I heard. But I don't care for rodents too much.
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01-05-13, 09:10 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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I was being sarcastic. But yes, that's what I heard. But I don't care for rodents too much.
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I know, but figured it was worth adding anyway. I'm not much into furry pets - guinea pigs, mice, rabbits, hamsters, gerbils, etc. - but I do love my rat.
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01-05-13, 09:13 PM
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Twist and Shout
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
I didnt know that a ravenous appetitie makes for a better beginner pet than a calm temperament...
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01-05-13, 09:14 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
If the snake isn't showing interest then remove the mouse.
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The snake is definitely showing interest, but she's just a total dumbo. The rodent is showing a great deal more cunning and intelligence. Even after I took all the items out of the tub, and let her hunt on bare aspen shavings.
Like I say, it's a real wonder they manage to survive in the wild.
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01-05-13, 09:16 PM
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Forum Moderator
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Toronto
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
Meh. All mine do just fine so natural selection would keep mine alive and yours not hahahaha
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01-05-13, 09:44 PM
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Re: BP not good beginner snake
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Originally Posted by limey
The snake is definitely showing interest, but she's just a total dumbo. The rodent is showing a great deal more cunning and intelligence. Even after I took all the items out of the tub, and let her hunt on bare aspen shavings.
Like I say, it's a real wonder they manage to survive in the wild.
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Why not stun the mouse so it's still fidgeting but unable to avoid her?
BP's were my first snakes. One is active and a ravenous eater and the other is more reserved and picky. I've decided to not stress about it anymore. If he's not hungry, he's not hungry. When mine avoids food, I don't feed him for up to a month or two because I know he won't eat. Once he looks likes he's searching for food or comes out when I'm around, then I offer food (f/t). He's avoided food for up to 7 months at a time but remains healthy.
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