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Old 12-21-12, 06:45 PM   #46
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She's on a tight budget which is why I recommended glass tanks. PLENTY of people use them without any problems. I highly doubt she will be able to afford a PVC enclosure and a thermostat.
most important part- and yes- a 10 gal tank CAN be okay- but why waste the 12 bucks on one, when a nice tub is half the price and works better?

if you do decide to go with a tank, since only having the 1 snake, it may be okay for him (the son) ... some other modifications would need to be made to the lid, or getting some plexiglass with holes made to fit under the screen top, or using a damp/wet towel and putting over the screen, i used that for a BRB for a year just fine...

i recommend a tub, 2 hides, water dish, UTH, thermostat, and substrate.
and hides can be anything, from old boxes, to a cheap plastic bowl cut, to a styofoam bowl. just make sure you have a thermostat.

**wow missed the whole 3rd page... what the hell is going on at this forum... cant we give new people advice and help out, or does everything need to become a pi**ing contest?

tubs or tanks, who cares, both CAN work, ones just a little easier. like walking or driving to work

this post is not under members lounge, so if some one google searches and sees this, how are we helping them?
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most important part- and yes- a 10 gal tank CAN be okay- but why waste the 12 bucks on one, when a nice tub is half the price and works better?

if you do decide to go with a tank, since only having the 1 snake, it may be okay for him (the son) ... some other modifications would need to be made to the lid, or getting some plexiglass with holes made to fit under the screen top, or using a damp/wet towel and putting over the screen, i used that for a BRB for a year just fine...

i recommend a tub, 2 hides, water dish, UTH, thermostat, and substrate.
and hides can be anything, from old boxes, to a cheap plastic bowl cut, to a styofoam bowl. just make sure you have a thermostat.
I recommended a 20/40g because they look nicer then tubs but you're right and I'm going to set up tubs for my boas I'm getting, do you think you could show a pic of your setup top and bottom?
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I recommended a 20/40g because they look nicer then tubs but you're right and I'm going to set up tubs for my boas I'm getting, do you think you could show a pic of your setup top and bottom?
your right, a 20/40 gal set up is awesome looking, but personally i would save those for corns as it is hard to keep humidity up for a BP in one of those... not saying it cant be done though, and since it is only 1 pet snake, sure you can take extra time and precaution to help with humidity.

as for my cages, i have tubs/custom made tanks. ill post a few.....

Corn on top, RTB on bottom- these were taking as i was finishing them up, so not all hides ect are in tank-


my rack for baby balls


one i used for a bigger BP that couldnt fit in tub-


not sure if these helped you (or the OP at all) but maybe it will someone?

also wanted to mention the cages were less than $100 to make, including heat.
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A bunch of useful pictures goes here.
I really like that system you have going, I just don't have a shelf for it. Another breeder just contacted me saying he wants to breed smaller snakes so he's offering his hypo BCI (very clean) and regular BCI which are both females for my pastel ball python and blizzard king. I just got this BP but it's a pretty good deal and I'd like to help him out. I'd also need larger tubs to fit the boas. Thanks for sharing those pictures though.
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glad i could help ya out. and good luck looking for bigger tubs for boas, i cant find them any where!
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glad i could help ya out. and good luck looking for bigger tubs for boas, i cant find them any where!
I'm not sure if I want to trade, I really like my bp lol.

For boa tubs I know Iris makes big ones

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Also: NEVER LISTEN TO THE PET STORE PEOPLE. They might mean well and seem like they know what they're talking about, but many people and their new pets have fallen prey to bad information (we see it on here all the time, and many of us have experience with it as well).

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I really like that system you have going, I just don't have a shelf for it. Another breeder just contacted me saying he wants to breed smaller snakes so he's offering his hypo BCI (very clean) and regular BCI which are both females for my pastel ball python and blizzard king. I just got this BP but it's a pretty good deal and I'd like to help him out. I'd also need larger tubs to fit the boas. Thanks for sharing those pictures though.
I feel sorry for all your animals.

You're more interested in "the deal" than actually learning about your snakes. I'm sure the boas will be traded once again.
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Whatever happened to the "home for life" mentality that most people used to have? My first snake was a normal cheap corn.. He was evil, skittish and a pain but I've still got him..

I more than understand breeders swapping and selling on breeding stock but these aren't bloody Pokemon cards.
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I really like that system you have going, I just don't have a shelf for it. Another breeder just contacted me saying he wants to breed smaller snakes so he's offering his hypo BCI (very clean) and regular BCI which are both females for my pastel ball python and blizzard king. I just got this BP but it's a pretty good deal and I'd like to help him out. I'd also need larger tubs to fit the boas. Thanks for sharing those pictures though.
Wow... I've stayed out of this situation but you're ridiculous. Animals are not objects that can be traded on a whim.
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I feel sorry for all your animals.

You're more interested in "the deal" than actually learning about your snakes. I'm sure the boas will be traded once again.
The kingsnake I never intended to keep, I only planned to get her eating and healthy which she now is.

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Wow... I've stayed out of this situation but you're ridiculous. Animals are not objects that can be traded on a whim.
If you're against trading animals then why do you even own them? They weren't naturally in our care. Have you ever owned a morph? They're traded and kept in tubs with a bowl and substrate for breeding purposes. That's nothing near natural so if you're going to advocate that animals are not objects and shouldn't be traded you shouldn't even own one.
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The kingsnake I never intended to keep, I only planned to get her eating and healthy which she now is.



If you're against trading animals then why do you even own them? They weren't naturally in our care. Have you ever owned a morph? They're traded and kept in tubs with a bowl and substrate for breeding purposes. That's nothing near natural so if you're going to advocate that animals are not objects and shouldn't be traded you shouldn't even own one.
You really arer going from the sublime to the ridiculous! Theree is a massive difference between a breeder buying and selling snakes to improve their business prospects and some one getting and trading snakes for no apparent reason.

Please explain how your situation relates to that of a breeder?

I bought all my snakes with the 100%intent to keep them until. They pass naturally, not as trading tokens when something "better" or "cooler" comes along.
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You really arer going from the sublime to the ridiculous! Theree is a massive difference between a breeder buying and selling snakes to improve their business prospects and some one getting and trading snakes for no apparent reason.

Please explain how your situation relates to that of a breeder?

I bought all my snakes with the 100%intent to keep them until. They pass naturally, not as trading tokens when something "better" or "cooler" comes along.
I've traded my amazon tree boa to a local breeder who needed a halloween phase, I didn't come to him. I had too many problems with my boa and the shop said they'd take care of him and let me get another snake, I wasn't trying to trade him off because I wanted something else. And the kingsnake I never intended on keeping, only bringing back to good health.

Three snakes, and only of them I actually posted on a local site to trade. That one snake I posted is the kingsnake which I did not intend on keeping.
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