This is sick, this is disgusting, this needs to STOP

[BarelyBreathing]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

It's always human fault/error when ANY animal bites a person. IMHO, when you get right down to it, there is no such thing as an "unprovoked" animal bite/attack.

I should probably specify HEALTHY animal. And I agree to a point. At least as far as a captive animal goes.

[StudentoReptile]

Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

I should probably specify HEALTHY animal. And I agree to a point. At least as far as a captive animal goes.

Well, even with unhealthy animals....whose fault is it that the animal in question is unhealthy?

And why just captive animals? If a wild animal bites/injures someone, it still applies. If a bee comes out of nowhere and stings you, yes, one could argue you didn't knowingly do anything to provoke it, but you walk outdoors in bee territory, you are undertaking the risk of getting stung. The bee is a wild animal reacting mostly on instinct. The bee is not to blame; you instigating the bee's aggressive behavior by approaching too close to the hive, whether it was inadvertently or intentionally.

[BarelyBreathing]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

Well, even with unhealthy animals....whose fault is it that the animal in question is unhealthy?

And why just captive animals? If a wild animal bites/injures someone, it still applies. If a bee comes out of nowhere and stings you, yes, one could argue you didn't knowingly do anything to provoke it, but you walk outdoors in bee territory, you are undertaking the risk of getting stung. The bee is a wild animal reacting mostly on instinct. The bee is not to blame; you instigating the bee's aggressive behavior by approaching too close to the hive, whether it was inadvertently or intentionally.

Sometimes it's the owner's fault that an animal is unhealthy, sometimes it isn't. Brain tumors can cause aggression out of nowhere, and you can't blame that on anybody.

[StudentoReptile]

Alright I'll give you that one...although such cases are pretty rare compared to aggressive behavior caused by human error.

I suppose rabies would qualify as well....but then again, most states require all dogs to be UTD on their rabies vaccinations.

[BarelyBreathing]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

Alright I'll give you that one...although such cases are pretty rare compared to aggressive behavior caused by human error.

I suppose rabies would qualify as well....but then again, most states require all dogs to be UTD on their rabies vaccinations.

Even if it's not required, it's just common sense.

I do have a dog who is veterinary exempt from getting vaccinations because she is allergic to them, but I take every production to ensure her health. She is only exercised in controlled environments, she is litter box trained, and I don't allow unvaccinated animals into my home.

[Zoo Nanny]

Even those abused and trained to fight can overcome their past in the right setting and the responsible people who care. I'm friends with Jacque at Best Friends Parrot Garden. She has told me so many stories about the dogs that have come through Parrot Garden getting ready to take their test for good citizen. This is an article that is heart warming. Only one of the many concerning the Mike Vick dogs taken to Best Friends.
Another vicktory for Oscar

[Sorraia]

Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

I've seen Animal Control try to take away somebody's obviously pure bred German Shorthair Pointer, claiming it was a pit.

Just like my dog! My dog is a German shorthaired pointer mix with about a quarter American Staffordshire, and who knows what else in her. According to nearly everyone out there, she's ALL "pit bull". If any such breed ban were enacted here (which for the time being won't ever happen because the state has decided it goes against the state constitution to enact such a ban) my dog would be in trouble. And the more research I do, the more she looks like a pointer too, and she definitely acts like it.

Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

Pit bulls refers to three breeds - the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, the American Pit Bull Terrier, and the American Staffordshire Terrier. They all look a little bit different (Staffy Bull Terriers are stockiest, American Staffies are medium, and American Pits are more slender), but they're all covered under the term "pit bull."

To add to the confusion that dogs had also been double registered as UKC "American Pit Bull Terrier" and AKC "American Staffordshire Terrier".