HYBRID'S how best to.....

[MoreliAddict]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

I think we need to start a "Reptile in Fiction" thread and split some of these posts off.

You never know, maybe there's a mystery cross of two certain species which could hatch a basilisk (not the lizard)!

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by MoreliAddict

You never know, maybe there's a mystery cross of two certain species which could hatch a basilisk (not the lizard)!

it was a frog sitting on a chicken egg IIRC.

[KORBIN5895]

You know what really blows my mind? The youngest person discussing HP is like 22.

[StudentoReptile]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

You know what really blows my mind? The youngest person discussing HP is like 22.

LOL. All I can say is that I'm pretty interested in seeing the film adaptation to the third Hunger Games book. Talk about hybrid reptiles!

[MoreliAddict]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

You know what really blows my mind? The youngest person discussing HP is like 22.

I was 8 years old when the first book came out, alot of us grew up with it...

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

LOL. All I can say is that I'm pretty interested in seeing the film adaptation to the third Hunger Games book. Talk about hybrid reptiles!

I need to read books two and three.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

LOL. All I can say is that I'm pretty interested in seeing the film adaptation to the third Hunger Games book. Talk about hybrid reptiles!

Third? The second is out already? I thought it was just the first? Or are you just alluding to something to come.

I need to read the series, they're on my shelf and book 1 is about 6th down on my "to read" list which means it might be a while before I get to it. I should just bump the series up and read it when I get done with my current book.

[StudentoReptile]

I'm just alluding to things to come. The second film is still in production.

[StudentoReptile]

Okay dokey...let's get things back on topic a little here....

This is a thread featuring the alleged Northern water snake x milksnake hybrid: http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...ttle-foot.html

Personally, after looking at all the photos, I'm still seeing 100% Nerodia in that animal. I'll admit the patterning on the head is a little unique, but nothing that suggests a mix from anything remotely resembling Lampropeltis. Perhaps its merely an intergrade with another water snake species or subspecies.

Another thing to consider in this particular case is the unlikelihood of such a crossing in the wild. Its one thing for someone to deliberately put these two species together in captivity and hope for a copulation. But would a eastern milk snake and a Northern water snake really "connect" on their own in their natural enviroment? How many other intergrades within the other Nerodia species in that area, or even hybrids with Thamnophis (garter snakes) are that common, before it would ever come to this?

Appearances aside, the mere fact we do not know the parents of this specimen since it was wildcaught, added to the high improbability of a "natural" hybridization, and the general consensus that an oviparous x viviparous crossing is anatomically unlikely...I'm calling this alleged hybrid a false: nothing but a somewhat unique looking water snake.

Any thoughts?

[millertime89]

I would be inclined to agree, its fun to hope that something like that were possible, but it doesn't really seem feasible. Would be interesting to see if it were possible but with as touchy as the topic is already I don't think we're going to have people too keen to try something as strange as ovi x vivi anytime soon. Who knows though, I could be wrong. That said I wouldn't be surprised if a host of complications arose from such a pairing.

[brandonh]

i tend to think its more likely especially in the wild is that the milk snake may possibly try eating the water snake instead of actually mating with it but thats just me.

[Jlassiter]

DEFINITELY 100% a nerodia with no other genera influence.......