I want to get a berm any info would be great - Page 4

KORBIN5895 · 04-19-12, 10:04 PM

Oh I noticed just wasn't sure how to take it.

**millertime89** · 04-19-12, 11:41 PM

Sounds like its illegal where ya live, but I'll give ya the run down.
Females can hit 20+ft and almost certainly will exceed 16ft. Males can hit 16 but usually top out in the 12-14ft range.
Feed them like any other giant, start with once a week when small, when they get to larger prey start cutting it back. They're generally docile but can have horrible tempers and almost always have an absolutely CRAZY feeding response. When they hit they hit HARD. Even my dwarf burm girl hits like a tank and she's only 6 ft.
Expect to need a 5x3 or a 6x2 at the very least and plan on a 6x3 if you get a female. They need a hotspot close to 90*F and 75%+ humidity, more as babies. They can be susceptible to RIs
They can be very rewarding to work with. Like the other giants they seem to be naturally inquisitive and relatively intelligent. However once they surpass 6-8 feet you absolutely MUST have someone around at all times when you're working with one because they are very strong. They may be heavy bodied, but like bloods they're not fat despite their appearance.
If you can find someone in your area (doubtful since they're illegal) with one I would encourage you to go check them out and maybe work with them a few times before making a decision. But I wouldn't encourage you to buy one since they're illegal.

Gungirl · 04-20-12, 05:51 AM

Thank you Kyle for adding more information... I only hope the OP is still reading the thread

Pueblo · 04-20-12, 03:35 PM

hey guys i didnt mean to start such problems we are all friends here.everybody is entitled to there opinions thats why i asked to see what you guys thought.I should have been more clear im interested in getting a berm but if they are to big or such a handfull id rather not. but ive watched alot of vidios were they seem awsome. so i was just looking for some more info. I realize going from somthing like a ball python to a berm would be a huge step but i already own a ten foot columbian. as far as by laws and regulations I believe they are made by stupid poeple and never made in mind of us reptile lovers. i believe there should be permits and proper testing before you can own any pet. there are alot of yahoos out there that go waving around snakes and reptiles to people who are scared or uninformed of them. most fear comes from not being educated about the topic and this is no different when dealing with reptiles. But i want to thank everybody who responded. i definatly agree with both of you yes more reaserch is needed but i believe we never stop learning and as good as we are sombody may be doing somthing that might work better.

Pueblo · 04-20-12, 03:39 PM

i also feel that telling sombody theyre not ready is wrong instead maybe ask them why they feel they are ready or ask them some key things they may need to know. and then giude them in the right direction by sugesting doing more reaserch. this way you won't offend anybody.

Pueblo · 04-20-12, 03:50 PM

thanks millertime for the info very valuable. again laws are made because of idiots. if idiots didnt go waving around large snakes and idiots not securing them in proper enclosures we wouldnt have these laws in the first place. when they made the gun laws and asked everybody to turn in there guns the honest people did but the criminals for sure did not. im not stupid so i dont show off my pets to people i enjoy them behind closed doors. and i make sure they are secure and well maitained. so as for laws im not a killer or thief or anything morally wrong. and i don't interfier with others living there own lifes. but i live my life my way quietly and piecfully and i try to gently perswade the uneducated to learn more before they judge others. piece and god bless

alessia55 · 04-20-12, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pueblo

hey guys i didnt mean to start such problems we are all friends here.everybody is entitled to there opinions thats why i asked to see what you guys thought.I should have been more clear im interested in getting a berm but if they are to big or such a handfull id rather not. but ive watched alot of vidios were they seem awsome. so i was just looking for some more info. I realize going from somthing like a ball python to a berm would be a huge step but i already own a ten foot columbian.

The temperament and needs of a burmese python are much different than that of a red tail boa.

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as far as by laws and regulations I believe they are made by stupid poeple and never made in mind of us reptile lovers. i believe there should be permits and proper testing before you can own any pet.

Yes, I think many of us agree that we wish there were a permit system so that responsible keepers could keep the reptiles they want. Unfortunately, the law is already set in place and as responsible keepers, we should abide by them (even if we disagree with them). The laws may not be made with us reptile lovers in mind, but they usually consider the environment and the people in the area. For now, we must abide by these laws. Abiding by these laws is part of being a responsible reptile keeper.

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there are alot of yahoos out there that go waving around snakes and reptiles to people who are scared or uninformed of them. most fear comes from not being educated about the topic and this is no different when dealing with reptiles.

We can hope to educate everyone around us, but that doesn't mean everyone can or should get over their fear of reptiles. Yes, some fear comes from a lack of knowledge, but we should still respect those who are afraid of snakes (politicians included!).

I think you are right to do more research. With more research and experience with larger snakes, you may one day be ready for a burmese python. By then, you might live in an area where they are legal to keep. Good luck & happy learning in the meantime!

marvelfreak · 04-20-12, 04:09 PM

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Lol... so you've noticed the sig... just put that one on a couple of days ago.

Yeah Chuck was me first mate on the forum.

What can i say mate i new from the being that your were one one of the Good Guys.

Pueblo · 04-20-12, 04:15 PM

I have to say i just love this forum. the diversity in people and opinions is awsome. as for my spelling i know it sucks big time. but that does not make me stupid im just a little uneducated. also when i type really fast my spelling gets worse. and most of the time im ecited when i log on and see what all my fellow snake lovers have to say. I do come here for information because even though ive owned snakes for over fifteen years there is always sombody who has a better idea or more creative way of taking care of there animals. ive learned if what your doing is not working try somthing else you may just find you get a better result. there are always new products to try and better setups. and never be afraid to ask and I have found its tuff to weed through all the info on the net. people who own burms love them people who do not own them have alot of negative things to say about them. i think if youve never owned one your opinion really does not matter i asked for answers about berms the poeple answeri9ng me should be the ones who own burms. no offence. like i said i like everybodys opinion so i can make up my own mind and at the end of the day i will decide if i can handleit or not. or i will decide to take the risk elegal or not. its my choice as smart as the human race is we can never all come together and agree on anything and untill then we will never be free. any ways piece and love and god bless us everyone. or what ever god or gods you may believe in. pieace out

Pueblo · 04-20-12, 04:20 PM

much to think about

Pueblo · 04-20-12, 04:23 PM

oh and just cause it says oshawa on my profile that doesnt mean i live in oshawa thats just a central location to were i live. i never take people to my house. and the pet shop in trouble is d&d exotics and they made huge mistakes.

alessia55 · 04-20-12, 04:26 PM

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i think if youve never owned one your opinion really does not matter i asked for answers about berms the poeple answeri9ng me should be the ones who own burms. no offence.

I have to disagree with you. Someone who has owned a burmese python doesn't necessarily make them the one and only type of person to have a valid and correct opinion on them. One of my best friends (Kim, username Will0W783 member on here; very experienced) has a beautiful burm that I love. I have learned a whole lot about burms through this forum and through Kim. I'm not an expert, but I don't feel it's right for you to tell me I shouldn't have an opinion about them.
Here I am with Kim's burm:

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like i said i like everybodys opinion so i can make up my own mind and at the end of the day i will decide if i can handleit or not. or i will decide to take the risk elegal or not. its my choice as smart as the human race is we can never all come together and agree on anything and untill then we will never be free. any ways piece and love and god bless us everyone. or what ever god or gods you may believe in. pieace out

Yes, you will make whatever decision you make. I cannot force you to do or not do something you don't want to do. I never said I don't want you to get a burm. I've only urged you to respect the law because I feel strongly that abiding by the reptile laws in place is part of being a responsible reptile owner. I have not said anything that should offend you. I just hope you make the responsible decision.

exwizard · 04-20-12, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pueblo

I have to say i just love this forum. the diversity in people and opinions is awsome. as for my spelling i know it sucks big time. but that does not make me stupid im just a little uneducated. also when i type really fast my spelling gets worse. and most of the time im ecited when i log on and see what all my fellow snake lovers have to say. I do come here for information because even though ive owned snakes for over fifteen years there is always sombody who has a better idea or more creative way of taking care of there animals. ive learned if what your doing is not working try somthing else you may just find you get a better result. there are always new products to try and better setups. and never be afraid to ask and I have found its tuff to weed through all the info on the net.

Well said and some of us need to answer these questions without judgement.

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Originally Posted by Pueblo

people who own burms love them people who do not own them have alot of negative things to say about them. i think if youve never owned one your opinion really does not matter i asked for answers about berms the poeple answeri9ng me should be the ones who own burms. no offence.

Ive never owned them but know people who do. I for one love them and hope Ill be able to have one someday (fat chance). Anyway, they are great snakes if youre prepared for their size potential.

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Originally Posted by Pueblo

like i said i like everybodys opinion so i can make up my own mind and at the end of the day i will decide if i can handleit or not. or i will decide to take the risk elegal or not. its my choice as smart as the human race is we can never all come together and agree on anything and untill then we will never be free. any ways piece and love and god bless us everyone. or what ever god or gods you may believe in. pieace out

Thats it exactly. Sometimes I find judgement to be quite thick around here and yes everybody has strong opinions but the bottom line is since its your decision and your consequences of that decision, you should be totally free to make that decision. I think its nuts when people get bent out of shape when their advice is not taken. Advice is just that; a suggestion that somebody does it another way, not an order to be obeyed.

**millertime89** · 04-21-12, 02:34 AM

Although we may not like the laws in place by accepting them and not breaking them we show the general population we're not a bunch of thugs. If I move at summer's end I may have to give up my dwarf burm girl, not something I do lightly as I went to a lot of trouble to find her. In the end I lucked out and a friend had a friend.

exwizard · 04-21-12, 04:55 AM

Is it illegal to have a Burm in Nebraska or Lincoln? If not why would you have to give her up?