bad reaction to my snake's meds??? help!!! - Page 4

RandyRhoads · 02-13-12, 09:17 PM

What do you mean "free flowing blood"? Can you be more specific.....you literally see blood pumping, or you see ecchymosis from a bruise?

Skumbo · 02-13-12, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelArtt

i managed to get her shed off today. she was brought back to the vet today because they wanted to see her. they apparently gave her another shot yesterday without informing me, but apparently they informed my boyfriend. she has been very immobile today. i am taking her to a new vet 1st thing in the morning

jeez, sounds like they are just trying things without really knowing what they're doing.. i hope the new vet knows what they're doing and can sort this out, the poor thing must be pissed at everyone right now

RebelArtt · 02-13-12, 09:36 PM

she just had blood under her skin. the entire neck are that i marked on the picture had blood under her skin, top & sides of her neck, not her belly tho. if you touched the area, you could see the blood move. almost like if you put a little bit of red juice in a baggy, sealed it & gently dragged your finger over it. you would see it seperate, move, & thin out. thats the way i described it to the vet.

RebelArtt · 02-13-12, 09:38 PM

yea, thats what i'm thinking. i was s furious about them giving her a shot without my permission. they said it was something to help her with her hydration, since she has shedding issues & has RI.

KORBIN5895 · 02-13-12, 09:39 PM

Could it be a blister? Is the blood red or purple?

RebelArtt · 02-13-12, 09:45 PM

it looked purple #1 cuz her pattern is dark & #2 cuz there was so much of it. but when she would move, the blood would move as well, & in spots that it thinned out, it was red. & it happened within during her warm bath or shrotly after it when she was put back in her tub.

Skumbo · 02-13-12, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelArtt

it looked purple #1 cuz her pattern is dark & #2 cuz there was so much of it. but when she would move, the blood would move as well, & in spots that it thinned out, it was red. & it happened within during her warm bath or shrotly after it when she was put back in her tub.

not much we can do, we're mostly curious. get her to a new vet ASAP.

I really hope this works out to not be anything life threatening or turns out it is something treatable.

Will0W783 · 02-14-12, 09:06 AM

You need to be giving injections in the FIRST third of the body, NOT near the tail end. Snakes have a renal portal system, so all blood and lymph fluid circulates through the front half of the body, then the kidneys, then the back half. Giving an injection in the tail end means that it will all be filtered out via the kidneys before it has a chance to get to the infected lungs.

You need to get a new vet..>ASAP. The one you are going to is likely not knowledgeable.

shaunyboy · 02-14-12, 11:10 AM

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I keep looking it over and over... still don't think it's the paper towel covering part of the tail

if its not the way the pictures been taken,then it is a very strange looking tail

cheers shaun

RandyRhoads · 02-14-12, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

You need to be giving injections in the FIRST third of the body, NOT near the tail end. Snakes have a renal portal system, so all blood and lymph fluid circulates through the front half of the body, then the kidneys, then the back half. Giving an injection in the tail end means that it will all be filtered out via the kidneys before it has a chance to get to the infected lungs.

You need to get a new vet..>ASAP. The one you are going to is likely not knowledgeable.

Awesome advice, I had no idea about this and apparently neither did my previous vet.

Wolfus_305 · 02-14-12, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRhoads

Awesome advice, I had no idea about this

Mhmm I agree, I didn't know that. That's pretty cool!

Do you know if that is for survival reasons? like if a snake gets bit on the tail and it gets affected it will not spread as quickly or something?

Will0W783 · 02-14-12, 03:19 PM

Guys, that bloated tail looks to me like a sign of impaction/constipation. The animal is severely swollen near the cloaca. Either it's getting ready to take a massive poo, or perhaps the injection was given improperly and punctured the intestinal wall, causing an infection?

I'd like to hear an update from the OP- how is the snake doing? Any bowel movements? From now on, give injections in the first 1/3 of the body...NOT the tail end.

Wolfus_305 · 02-14-12, 03:22 PM

^^ Also, OP how did the vet visit (to the new vet) go this morning??

Will0W783 · 02-14-12, 03:25 PM

Wolfus, the renal portal system is not for survival, it's just a more primitive arterial/venous system.
Reptiles have a 3-chambered heart, instead of 4 chambers like we mammals do. Deoxygenated blood (that has gone through the body) flows in from either side (2 ventricles) and is reoxygenated. However, because there is only one atrium (exit chamber) in the heart, the deoxygenated blood from one side gets mixed in with the reoxygenated blood from the other side of the heart....thus their system is much less efficient.
To help cope with this less efficient system and the weaker heart muscles, the blood goes through the entire body once before going back to the heart. In mammals, blood is sent from the lower body up to the heart, to the upper body back to the heart, etc. Our blood will have gone through our entire body before flowing through the kidneys.

In a reptile, any blood caudal to the heart is on its way to the kidneys and any medicine given in an area caudal (tail) to the heart will be filtered out of the blood before it gets through the body.

RandyRhoads · 02-14-12, 03:40 PM

In animals the blood exits through the atrium instead of the ventricles....?