Starting with venomous snake

[vendettaseve]

Originally Posted by mistersprinkles

You don't say? With no experience?
I'm opening a nuclear power plant the same day you open your snake farm, ok? We'll see if either of us makes it through the first day without killing ourselves.

Could you do internet instead. I need a new provider.

Really tho, Sprinkles hit the nail on the head with this one, wish this site had a rep+ system.

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by mistersprinkles

Because he caught on to the fact that someone with absolutely no experience or concept of what they are getting into wants to buy a machine gun and will likely aim it backwards. The guy is clearly a flake.

All who keep snakes, are in the life Game.

Yes. A Garter can kill a grown man in less than three minutes.


elebrate diversity. Don’t force yourself into the game, celebrate the game. Don’t try to force others (Snake) to be like you. The more you push or persecute, the harder they kick back. Others will fight to protect their spirit. Softness overcomes hardness, mercy is water, water is soft. The unique character of Wu Dang is softness. Softness is the application of the Tao. Water can carry, flow, or flood. Celebrate different manifestations of the Tao.
Nice men in white shirts will take you to a peaceful place...


I am open Cobra Farm in Gauteng, South Africa.
Looking for People who experienced in Cobra keeping.

You don't say? With no experience?
I'm opening a nuclear power plant the same day you open your snake farm, ok? We'll see if either of us makes it through the first day without killing ourselves.

^^^^^
the arrogance of that stament is something else mate

how do you know the guy has no experience and is a flake ?

would it not have been more constructive to ask the guy a few questions instead of making assumptions and name calling ?

i think if you look hard enough all snake keepers are a litlle eccentric. no ?

all the guys asking is if someone in his country can supply a particular snake for breeding projects at a cobra sanctuary he is opening how do you know the guy has no experience with them regards their husbandry requirements ?

it would be much more sensible to explain the dangers and how to get proper training than making sarcastic posts and most likely scaring the guy away from asking questions on this forum which will most likely result in the guy going away and trying to work it out for himself endangering himself in the proccess...!!

to the op
the reson people are worried is you ask for handling advice which you should already know if your prepairing to work with venomous snakes

what people are trying to tell you mate is that a venomous snake is NOT to be taken lightly.thwey have the ability to kill you and other members of your family if not treated carefully enough

the general rule of safety with hots is you get someone to mentor you over a 2 to 3 year period until you use safe practises as your reflex action at the end of the day your life is at risk so should not be asking for handling tips on a public forum you need proper tutoring from and experienced venomous keeper mate

cheers shaun

[mistersprinkles]

[QUOTE=shaunyboy;604511]^^^^^
the arrogance of that stament is something else mate

I find flakes take unusual exception to arrogance and thus unusual notice of it. He needs to take some serious notice of this not being a bright idea.
Offended person? Dead person? If I can save someone's life, I would rather offend someone and lower other's opinion of me and save that life, than keep my mouth
shut. When someone I don't think should run out and open a cobra farm tommorow says they're going to... What's the responsible way to react? Should reactions not be gauged to the thing
we are reacting to?

how do you know the guy has no experience and is a flake ?

He said he has no experience. He then made 3 consecutive ultra-flake posts.

would it not have been more constructive to ask the guy a few questions instead of making assumptions and name calling ?


I don't need to ask more questions. Read the post. "I am opening a cobra farm. Does anyone have any experience with Cobras?" He has no experience with cobras. He does, however, want to farm them. Good idea? Bad idea?

The guy is saying that everyone who has snakes is playing a game of life and death. He put a quote up from Wu Dang which has nothing to do with anything. ... come on.

i think if you look hard enough all snake keepers are a litlle eccentric. no ?

My opinion: There's nothing eccentric about most of the very normal people who have one or several snakes which are highly non-lethal as house pets. If your corn snake bites you, you're barely even going to feel it. If your cobra bites you, it's going to threaten your life. I'll take the corn snake. Lots of surprisingly friendly, very non-venomous reptiles out there that are easily bred and valuable for resale.

Originally Posted by vendettaseve

Could you do internet instead. I need a new provider.

Really tho, Sprinkles hit the nail on the head with this one, wish this site had a rep+ system.

Thank you.

[shaunyboy]

i still fail to see what productivity comes from slagging the guy off and name calling

i have only read this thread and i agree if the guy has so little experience then he should shelve his plans until the proper skills can be learned

you seem to have took on board how serious a situation it is by your offended over dead statement

but i have found when people offend newbies all they do is tend to shy away from asking more questions and go off on their own and attempt whatever it was they set out to do in the first place

i just feel that it would have been a lot more help to educate the guy instead of treating him in the manor you chose to use

cheers shaun

[sickvenom]

Originally Posted by vendettaseve

This thread is getting ridiculous.

It's *been* ridiculous.

[Lankyrob]

[quote=mistersprinkles;604514]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

^^^^^
the arrogance of that stament is something else mate

I find flakes take unusual exception to arrogance and thus unusual notice of it. He needs to take some serious notice of this not being a bright idea.
Offended person? Dead person? If I can save someone's life, I would rather offend someone and lower other's opinion of me and save that life, than keep my mouth
shut. When someone I don't think should run out and open a cobra farm tommorow says they're going to... What's the responsible way to react? Should reactions not be gauged to the thing
we are reacting to?

how do you know the guy has no experience and is a flake ?

He said he has no experience. He then made 3 consecutive ultra-flake posts.

would it not have been more constructive to ask the guy a few questions instead of making assumptions and name calling ?


I don't need to ask more questions. Read the post. "I am opening a cobra farm. Does anyone have any experience with Cobras?" He has no experience with cobras. He does, however, want to farm them. Good idea? Bad idea?

The guy is saying that everyone who has snakes is playing a game of life and death. He put a quote up from Wu Dang which has nothing to do with anything. ... come on.

i think if you look hard enough all snake keepers are a litlle eccentric. no ?

My opinion: There's nothing eccentric about most of the very normal people who have one or several snakes which are highly non-lethal as house pets. If your corn snake bites you, you're barely even going to feel it. If your cobra bites you, it's going to threaten your life. I'll take the corn snake. Lots of surprisingly friendly, very non-venomous reptiles out there that are easily bred and valuable for resale.




Thank you.

IF you actually read his first post he DOES NOT say that HE has no experience. HE says he is opening the cobra farm and is asking if anyone else has experience.

As per usual on this forum the second anyone mentions about owning venomous snakes they are automatically an idiot that is going to kill themselves or others.

Yet again no questions are asked as to whether the person has experience, has a mentor, knows what he is doing.

Maybe you should take a step back and stop having a go at people when you dont know who you are talking about?

[RandyRhoads]

I agree with shaun on this one, you jumped way ahead of yourself. And attacking his personal beliefs/religion/morals? The nice white men ect..... So you are calling him a complete psych job because of his Tao beliefs?

[ilovemypets1988]

right leon, this is what SHOULD`VE been asked/said before,

your thinking about opening a cobra farm, are you not?

what type of cobras are you thinking of as they are all different and have different potency when it comes to there venom

can you get hold of anti-venom easily and if so do you know how much you will need to get for each cobra that you will have on site

do you actually have any experience of any kind with any type of venomous snake as i wouldnt regard the cobra as the ideal beginner venomous snake

do you know what type of husbandry will be needed for each individual snake as i wouldnt recommend 2 in each cage as that would be too dangerous

and the final question from me would be, can you get to a medical centre if things go badly wrong and you dont react to the anti-venom well, i.e. if you go into antivelactic shock and so on

[NennaMeerkat]

I am not trying to be mean or anything like that but I can't help and look at this guy as someone TRYING to get something started. I am sure people on here are around the net as a whole enough to recognize trolls and such right? That is what I see when I read this guy's original post and other posts he has done. So personally I think this thread as a whole should be ignored from here on out. I think he is out for laughs and stirring up drama.

[TeaNinja]

Originally Posted by NennaMeerkat

I am not trying to be mean or anything like that but I can't help and look at this guy as someone TRYING to get something started. I am sure people on here are around the net as a whole enough to recognize trolls and such right? That is what I see when I read this guy's original post and other posts he has done. So personally I think this thread as a whole should be ignored from here on out. I think he is out for laughs and stirring up drama.

funny you said that, i ignored it from the beginning

[ilovemypets1988]

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

funny you said that, i ignored it from the beginning

i agree with nenna, the fact that it sounds "ify" is to say the least but i cant ignore a thread as it may help some other newbies that may look at this and think that starting with cobras and not being experienced as a good idea, so im just putting general questions down that will have to be anwsered before anyone gets a cobra, thas the only reason why im putting messages up

[nikkik85]

I dont ever want a venomous snake. I hope you be carefull Good luck

[stephanbakir]

Some hots look unbelievable! Rhino vipers, African Bush vipers, Mekong vipers etc

[ilovemypets1988]

i have an idea for all of you, lets say what venomous snake you would adore to have if you could, lets change this thread around to something pleasant.

i will start, i would love to have a western diamond back rattle snake as i love there colouring and markings and i love the sound of the rattle (heard from nature programs)

[NennaMeerkat]

There is a tiny little viper that rubs up against itself making a rattling noise or some sort of raspy noise to warn people of it being around. It is really really small and lives in desert areas in Africa I think...not sure what it is called but if I was silly enough to own a "hot" it would be that one.

Anyone know what it is?