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02-25-11, 04:36 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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02-25-11, 06:14 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
i like to think all my guys are cute as i now have a lack of females haha how is she doing em? 
I'd also say my BRB is pretty cute, even though he has a bit of size hes easily handleable and has never shown signs of striking or any defensive behavior whatsoever, maybe the wifey needs to be around them more to see that theyre not THAT bad?
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02-25-11, 09:09 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
I'd have to suggest ball pythons. My mom hates snakes, but she really loves my bp "Blue". She thinks my new corn (Who I think is a hypo-snow? There was some misinformation/confusion so I'm not sure - but you were in my thread so I know you've seen her picture; she's a pink little cutie) is adorable - but is too affraid to touch her because of the way she moves around. I think she likes Blue's big head, doe eyes, and docile nature. Not to mention their ":3" smiley faces. <3 She's just chilling over my shouldeer as I type this - something I don't think I could do with my corn, atleast not for a while.
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02-26-11, 02:30 AM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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Originally Posted by infernalis
I can honestly say they are not Garters.
Garter snakes are of the species Thamnophis.
I own Thamnophis.net, Thamnophis.us & Thamfriends.com, Our good friend Jason (Boots) the other moderator here owns Thamnophis.com
My screen name is taken from Thamnophis Sirtalis Infernalis, The California Garter snake.
I'm not trying to brag or boast, just establishing that there is not a Garter snake species on the planet that I cannot identify on sight. 
Google only searches the web for words, If someone who does not know what they photographed calls it a garter snake, Google will attach the name to the picture.
This is also why no one should ever take Wikipedia as gospel, anyone can type anything they want on there, and it's not necessarily always true.
Back to the green snakes, yes they will eat crickets, however there is an enzyme present in spiders that insects lack, Green snakes need that enzyme or their health slowly deteriorates and generally within a year the snake will die.
Just like certain fish contain an enzyme called Thiaminase that blocks thiamin absorption within the snakes that eat fish, and the snake will ultimately have an abbreviated lifespan from thiamin deficiency.
The worst 2 kinds of fish anyone could feed to garter snakes or water snakes is goldfish and rosy reds, yet for some messed up reason, quite a few pet shops will actually recommend feeding goldfish or rosies to pet garter snakes?? Those fish contain very high levels of Thiaminase. |
Oh I know you're a VERY well established garter person. You're probably the most knowledgable garter person on this forum.
I just find it a tad odd that that many rough/smooth greens would be housed together. Then again, I know barely anything about them. I also thought the head structure resembled garters to an extent, but then again, neither of them are my forte.
And ohhh :c ... Eh well, most pet stores are idiots.
And on Mary's comment:
That's TeaNinja's BP. c:
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02-26-11, 02:41 AM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
OK I broke the picture down for you.
The only rough green in the lot is the one the finger points at, the one that is circled is a garter snake, and the remaining three are ribbon snakes, another Thamnophis sub species, so technically they too are garter snakes.
This also tells me that these snakes are all wild caught animals most likely purchased from one of the Florida wholesalers, since Florida is about one of the only states left that has no laws forbidding the mass gathering of indigenous reptiles for the pet trade.
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02-26-11, 02:59 AM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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Originally Posted by emilie
I think the thickness of the snake would bother her too, im not sure a hognose or sand boa would do. so I think I'm stuck with corns......oh well one day *day dreaming gaze*
I had to tell her corns would never ever bite because they can't, before I could get her to calm down.... |
dont tell wrong infromation because it makes things easier please. because the day it actually bites her (not saying it will) i can only see bad things coming from. and if she goes and tells that to someone and that person gets bit by one its just not safe.
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02-26-11, 10:56 AM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
Love the picture of teenninjas bp. <3 so adorable!
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02-26-11, 12:33 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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Originally Posted by infernalis
OK I broke the picture down for you.
The only rough green in the lot is the one the finger points at, the one that is circled is a garter snake, and the remaining three are ribbon snakes, another Thamnophis sub species, so technically they too are garter snakes.
This also tells me that these snakes are all wild caught animals most likely purchased from one of the Florida wholesalers, since Florida is about one of the only states left that has no laws forbidding the mass gathering of indigenous reptiles for the pet trade.
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Oh wow :c .. More going on than I'd thought.. Poor things, I feel bad for them, being crammed in one place and mixed with all sorts :< ... Florida should really put a law up on that kinda stuff...
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02-26-11, 12:46 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
A vast majority of racers, garters, ribbon snakes, water snakes, coach whips, corns, brown snakes, green snakes, etc.. Are all wild caught in Florida.
Especially the ones that are sold really cheap.
My Black Racer Toby came from an egg laid by a wild caught specimen from Florida.
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02-26-11, 01:02 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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Originally Posted by infernalis
A vast majority of racers, garters, ribbon snakes, water snakes, coach whips, corns, brown snakes, green snakes, etc.. Are all wild caught in Florida.
Especially the ones that are sold really cheap.
My Black Racer Toby came from an egg laid by a wild caught specimen from Florida.
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That's sad :c I kinda think wild snakes should be kept wild. I mean... It may not be -so- bad if you know what you're doing and keep it one to a cage(and, as you've said, garters are exceptions to this rule), but to take them from their natural habitat and do -that-? Just grabbin' what ya can and throwin' 'em all in one cage? Bleh. Also could be negative 'cause it makes the surrounding ecosystem unbalanced if too many are taken.
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02-26-11, 01:09 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
Heck, my property here is swarming with garter snakes, and I have never been tempted to scoop them up and sell them.
I do keep a few when I find a "special" one. But they live very luxurious lives once I bring them in the house.
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02-26-11, 01:47 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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Heck, my property here is swarming with garter snakes, and I have never been tempted to scoop them up and sell them.
I do keep a few when I find a "special" one. But they live very luxurious lives once I bring them in the house.
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Oh I'm sure. And I meant it's not so bad if you take one and care for it properly, meaning, you keep it and not sell it. I don't agree with taking snakes from the wild and selling them off.
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02-26-11, 01:52 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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Oh I'm sure. And I meant it's not so bad if you take one and care for it properly, meaning, you keep it and not sell it. I don't agree with taking snakes from the wild and selling them off.
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I agree with the sentiment but without this we wouldnt have a hobby............
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02-26-11, 02:02 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
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I agree with the sentiment but without this we wouldnt have a hobby............
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Well, yes... If you want to go that way with it, we wouldn't have any of the pets we do today. Dogs came from wolves gradually being domesticated, as most know. Cats probably a similar way. Any pet.. probably a similar way... but, these days most snakes are covered pretty decently, in my opinion. I mean, newer breeds... Yes, you'd probably have to in order to keep it going, to see the successful breeding/selling of them live on, but for things like corns, milks, etc.? Neh. They're already well established, so I wouldn't think you'd need to snatch them from the wild and sell them, and I don't agree with that for such a well established snake.
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02-26-11, 04:15 PM
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Re: Would you call it cute?
I fully agree that whenever a new morph or something rare turns up, Please catch it and if you don't intend to breed it, please get it in the hands of someone who will.
However, Certain snakes like those Florida rough green snakes are well known for doing terribly in captivity (with a few exceptions) yet they turn up for 10-20 dollars all the time.
At this point in our hobby, there is no reason to scoop up large numbers of wild snakes just to get a quick buck.
To this day Royal Pythons are still gathered up from the wild and sold at places like petco so they can keep on having their $29.99 sale.
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