Restricted Firearms owners, check this out! - Page 4

BWSmith · 02-21-05, 12:51 AM

It is the same way with venomous reptiles. If there is a reasonable permit system in place, people are more likely to stay legal.

justinO · 02-21-05, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by munchy
which if you ask me is pointless considering everyone and their dog now carries one anyway. registered or non-registered/stolen.

Personally, I do not know of ANY legal firearm owners who break any laws other then the 5rd ammo cap on rifles. It is irresponsible and like herps, its VERY easy to have many thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Not too many people are going to go out and drop a few grand on a snake if it's illegal where they live due to municipal/state laws. too much to risk for what it's worth.

Again, like herps, its the irresponsible idiots that make for tougher laws against the hobby and legetimate owners.

justin

munchy · 02-21-05, 02:23 AM

.

gargoyle · 02-21-05, 08:24 AM

Slannesh: I was not refering to anyone in particular with my comments, just making a general statement!

Munchy: If you know that many people without permits that own handguns, you are really setting yourself up for a life behind bars if you call these people friends.

FOR EVERYONE THAT HAS STATED THEY ARE AMAZED THIS THREAD HASN'T BEEN SHUT DOWN!

gargoyle · 02-21-05, 08:24 AM

Slannesh: I was not refering to anyone in particular with my comments, just making a general statement!

Munchy: If you know that many people without permits that own handguns, you are really setting yourself up for a life behind bars if you call these people friends.

FOR EVERYONE THAT HAS STATED THEY ARE AMAZED THIS THREAD HASN'T BEEN SHUT DOWN!

gargoyle · 02-21-05, 08:24 AM

FOR EVERYONE THAT HAS STATED THEY ARE AMAZED THIS THREAD HASN'T BEEN SHUT DOWN!

If you read the forum rules, there is nothing about firearms discussions in there and everyone here has been civil and made valid points without being rude!

All I wanted to do was show, what I thought might be some people that are interested in this video something that I thought was amazing.... I guess I should have expected a bunch of people that are just fear mongers similar to the ones making our animal bylaws in Canada, would be jumping on here and making a nice friendly thread a place to debate an issue they no nothing about in reality.....when they go out to a sportsman show and look at the info available, or better yet go to a gun club and talk to some of the people than maybe they will have a better understanding of the time and skill involved in a sport like this and that it isn't made up of murderers and criminals, but well respected and upstanding citizens! Have a nice day

If your reading these just to trash firearms start a new thread, that isn't what this one is about!

chas*e · 02-21-05, 09:42 AM

Falling trees kill 62 people a yr in Canada...ban the tree ....lol...wimps.....Long live the personal firearm
Great shooting....

munchy · 02-21-05, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gargoyle
Slannesh: I was not refering to anyone in particular with my comments, just making a general statement!

Munchy: If you know that many people without permits that own handguns, you are really setting yourself up for a life behind bars if you call these people friends.

FOR EVERYONE THAT HAS STATED THEY ARE AMAZED THIS THREAD HASN'T BEEN SHUT DOWN!

funny i dont remember ever saying i was friends with any of them. it was a good assumtion though as i do know a few of them personally...
how do you figure ill end up behind bars because i know people who are idiots? what they do has **** all to do with me..

Skinnychondro · 02-21-05, 08:37 PM

Remember the Simpsons episode when Homer gets a gun. When he's sitting on the front lawn for like 2 days waiting for his permit to come and everything he sees has a target on it. LMAO!!!

gargoyle · 02-21-05, 08:51 PM

Munchy all I'm saying is that if you keep company with people like that, no matter how much you attempt to avoid trouble, it'll eventually find you! Sometimes knowing the "personally" is all it takes!

munchy · 02-21-05, 09:05 PM

meh i can see how one might think so but my momma aint raised no fool.

i dont involve myself in anything stupid. its not worth it..

gargoyle · 02-21-05, 09:26 PM

Good to hear!

Lisa · 02-21-05, 09:42 PM

Interesting vid.

As for what's legal and illegal in canada you would be surprised. I have the list of what's illegal in canada and surprisingly the gun that caused many of these guns to make the list isn't on it (mini 14, think montreal, marc lepean)

We live out in the country and have a gun. It's not for target shooting or hunting, it's for killing things (self defence). We can't wait for animal control to come around to take care of a rabid animal or for the cops to come and take care of an intruder.

Here's an interesting statistic, I don't know if it's true or not, but in Ontario there is one gun for every 3 people. That's alot of guns, yet we don't have alot of gun deaths. Why is that? Could it be that our media up here doesn't have us living in fear like the US does, or maybe to get a gun we have to learn gun safety and get a licence. The types of guns restricted up here are similar to many of the restricted guns in the states (contrary to popular belief you can not get any type of gun you want in the usa) so the type of guns we have isn't the issue.

I'm all for mandatory education and regulation of gun ownership (though the gun registry is just a joke that costs you the tax payer money) but lets put the blame for gun deaths where it belongs, on the individual, not the gun.

BWSmith · 02-21-05, 10:35 PM

Quote:

(contrary to popular belief you can not get any type of gun you want in the USA)

Actually, if you go through the proper channels, you CAN. A Class C Permit and $500 transfer fee is all that is required for fully automatic weapons or weapons with suppressors (Silencers). You can buy a grenade launcher, just not the grenades. A Flame Thrower falls under the same regulations as a commercial bug sprayer. And now that the Assault Weapons ban is void, we can get more. Specialty rounds come to mind: Armor Piercing, Magnesium Tracers, Flachet and flamethrower shotgun rounds, High Cap mags, the list goes on. GOD I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!

But amazingly, legal automatic weapons, high cap mags, and supressors, and specialty ammo are rarely used in crimes.

On the upside, criminals generally buy crap. Cheap ammo and throw-away guns that don't work. If you can unload a Lorson pistol without it jamming, I'll give you a dollar. And most big cities have stiffened the penalty for illegal firearms while maintaining our rights. Atlanta for example has a minimum 5 years in jail for illegal firearms.

Gargoyle, about a year or two ago, ANY post that mentioned firearms was deleted. I guess it was realized that they ARE a fact of life, and while controversial, still warrent discussion. I thank the administration for allowing such topics.