Variety Pack of Boas.

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by ROMEO
Tony, that is a gorgeous collection. Don' t let the haters bring you down.

Who's hating on him?? No one is, I don't think anyone here has said that Tony has anything BUT a wonderful collection of Boa's.. I think we all agree on that. He is being asked questions that people are interested to know the answers to, is that not what this forum is for?? As soon as you post pictures of what you own, your collection has gone public. If you didn't want people to know what you own, you wouldn't be showing pictures of it..

[Matt_K]

Just a side note.. Tony or 'Romeo'.. Can you guys explain why you're posting from the same IP and host??? Meanwhile, 'Romeo' claims to be from the US.. I'd be interested in the answer.. If you guys don't want to answer me here, you can PM or Email me..

-Matt

[BigDan]

Trevor

I have not produced snows yet, I do have some Double het for snow due in March. Male coral phase bred to and anery female.

I have a 2.5 year old pair of double het for snow from Pete Kahl and a 4 year old female snow. Female DH is too young for this season but I have introduced my DH male with the snow and have observed some copulation but no ovulation as of yet.

I do know a breeder by the name of Muenster (not sure of his first name) tried breeding a snow to a snow but nothing came of it. I would probably stay away from doing that as well since most snows are a bit fragile already.

As for snows producing I do know males have successfully bred but I have yet to hear of a snow female producing a successful litter. I have many friends in the U.S. that breed boas talk to them on a regular basis. As well I have asked that question to all of the major breeders down there. Not one knows of an instance where a snow female produced. Again there may be one down there but it has yet to be substantiated.

I would be very leary of beleiving without seeing pics of the birth or the female with her babies. If the breeder has actually accomplished this they would take pics. I know when I have baby boas born I take a million pics and have this info on hand for all my litters. Most people do the same.

As for the rest of this I would say if you do not have the animals then be upfront about it. I have animals coming in the New Year which I did post one pic of but I also said that these were on their way. Once I receive them I will post other pics.

Like Rob said one thing I do also beleive in is give people credit for the animals they produce it is only fair. You may have purchased the animal but you did not produce it and that is where the accomplishment lies. Many of Tony's boas were produced by me, salmon, anery, hoggs and the corals were purchased through me and the fact he did not mention me is fine but the reason why kind of does bother me.

Most importantly you have to actually produce some animals before you start worrying about competition and free advertising for others.

I think Tony is a good person and and is genuinely excited about his animals but he may have jumped the gun a bit. If you post a pic now or 6 months from now when the animal arrives it really does not make a difference in the long run. But it may stop people from questioning you on what is actually going on.

Basically I think honesty is the best policy because no matter who you are if you spread the bullshit too thick it alsways catches up with you. Lest we forget MR. C.M. who thought it would never catch up with him but it did.

Dan

[MouseKilla]

Yeah we're gonna need pictures of both of you as well as the names of your breeders. LOL

[BoidKeeper]

Every second day when you catch me on MSN you're are sending me links to posts you have made on ssnakess.

I thought I was the only one he did that too.

Just a side note.. Tony or 'Romeo'.. Can you guys explain why you're posting from the same IP and host???

I thought it was strange that this Romeo guy just joined and with in minutes was defending someone who wasn't even being attacked.

Dan,
Thanks for sharing that info.
Cheers,
Trevor

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

nevermind

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by BOAS_N_PYTHONS
MATT:

Your question is simple, because I do not like to get negative on people or start wars on forums I actually planned on not replying. A friend of mine from school is visiting Manitoba and is at my place, he saw the post and was doing what friends do and supported me. So I decided now to reply and get Romeo off before things get rude. If you read more into it so be it, this is the reason take it for what it is.

Your Friend huh?? At your house now???

Originally posted by ROMEO
Damn I can' t believe I missed this post Tony. I loved the other one and this is just amazing as well. Do you have a farm of snakes? A friend of my told me you are passionate about boas but you have pythons too, do you run a zoo or all this is yours?

Originally posted by ROMEO
Hello, I am Romeo and I am a snakeholic.

I finally have internet and a few friends to me about this forum, looks good, I hope I can learn and help people as well.

MERRY CHRISTMAS

Sorry, but it just seems too fishy to me..

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Yeah, lol, I agree with Matt's last point there. Tony, I have nothing against you, you seem to be a great guy and I have alwasy seen you the same way: Nice guy on the forum that will probably become a well known boa breeder. Mostly because, as you state, you are never "pushy" on anyone on this forum. You've always been a nice guy but this post seems to have brought up a different angle. I also understand why you wouldnt want to give the name of the person you bought your snakes from, but I dont see it as free advertising, because now people know that not only does the breeder have the ability to produce those animals, but YOU DO TOO. Since yours are decendants, why would anyone see your animals as anything less? Sure, names have something to do with it, but, hey, people know you have animals from the big-name person. And nobody starts out as a "big-name".

Yeah, I find this Romeo or whatever it is friend story kind of fishy aswell, but,

MATT:

LOL I must be dumb or something, but I cannot find those two posts you quoted?!?!?! If you could point me to them! Thanks.

C.

[BoAddict]

i dont recall bashing dan as you say, i do recall you making him to be like a god and i just said i didnt think so. but for the sake of argument if i did then so be it im big enough to say my opinion has changed as i do know more about him now. my opinions change about people all the time doesnt mean anything everybody has opinions but not everybodies opinions are the same

Mike

i hope you read my pm to you and it may explain a bit more

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by CHRISANDBOIDS14
MATT:

LOL I must be dumb or something, but I cannot find those two posts you quoted?!?!?! If you could point me to them! Thanks.

C.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showt...336#post442336

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showt...298#post442298

There ya go

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

OTHER THREADS! Lol. Why didnt I think about that!?!?!?! I was just looking through this one. Thanks Matt. I didnt think you were goofing!

Edit: LMAO! I just looked at everything and thought about it and its quite odd as a matter of a fact.

C.

[Ron]

Originally posted by BOAS_N_PYTHONS
Also the statement of copyrighting a photo from another camera even though the image (animal) in it is mine, paid for by myself. I feel I should clarify why I put my name on it. Already mentioned is because I own the rights to those images.

So when you buy an animal you think that gives you the rights to all the pics ever taken as well?

BigDan just used a pic of Medusa, was it wrong for him to post it?

My girlfriend photographs animals as a side job, mostly dogs. If one of her clients decided to use a picture of one of THEIR animals that she took in an advertisement, she would be well within her rights to sue them unless she signed a release. If you plan to use others pics without giving them credit I hope you get a signed release or you could find yourself in quite a bit of trouble.

[Scales Zoo]

Well, gosh, what a thread.

At least I can say "I told you so" Tony. I warned you that people were starting to call b.s. - but your level of posting just increased after my polite warning.

Just so you know, our 6' + female het for snow.... we may be parting with - so don't get upset when we don't send it out to you to breed to your male snow boa which you told me was at your "facility".

The one story of yours that bothered me the most was the surinams, guyanas and brazillians that yoiu produced, but did not post pictures of. I beleive you said the buyer of the whole litters paid for the pictures, all the snakes, and your silence. That right there is fishy enough in my opininion.

I'll shut up now.

Ryan

[Linds]

They are all beautiful snakes, whether in your care or in someone elses.

Originally posted by Matt_K
Sorry, but it just seems too fishy to me..

Agreed 100%.

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

nevermind