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12-24-04, 08:36 PM
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That's just it chas*e, and therein lies the problem.... Keep it clean all you want, but poor hygiene is rarely to blame in most of the listed medical ailments (they clean it as often as the circumcised men). The fact is it is a bacteria breeding ground, and unless you're cleaning it 10+ times a day you may as well not be doing it at all.
Even though the American Academy of Paediatrics (AAP) and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (ACOG) have said that "there is no absolute medical indication for routine circumcision of the newborn," there is still a significant health risk. For example, an absolute medical indication of not having a ruptured appendix removed is sepsis and subsequent death (potentially), therefore there exists an absolute medical indication for an appendectomy if the appendix is ruptured.
Now, being uncircumcised does not guarantee that one will get a urinary tract infection, penile cancer, an STD, or cause his partner to develop cervical cancer; however, it is shown that these risks are increased in uncircumcised males - there is no absolute medical indication, but there are inherent medical risks.
There is no religious reason for why circumcision is prevalent in my family and many other non-religious folks, however, as I come from a family of medical-field related professionals, I will continue the act with my children and hopefully decrease the aforementioned medical risks.
What a bizarre thread, I feel weird....
Ryan
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12-24-04, 08:43 PM
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Paulsreef, your claims have no medical basis whatsoever. My father is a urologist, and said your claims were absurd when I discussed it with him. There has been nothing published in medical journals that would even suggest it as a possibility, let alone prove it. It is also his professional opinion (from having performed this operation many times himself) that there is no reason whatsoever to suggest that it might be the case.
And by the way, my father chose to have me circumcised as an infant (although for obvious reasons, by another doctor), using his medical judgement. We are also atheist.
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12-25-04, 02:15 AM
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I or my parents are in no way religios, and I am SOOOO happy they decided to get me circumsized. Out of all my freinds olny 2 arent circumsised and they wish they had been/
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12-25-04, 08:28 AM
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Any type of hairless rodent would make a great feeder for any species of reptile that could have a problem with hair impaction...... They are especially good for reptiles that do not normaly eat hairy rodents in the wild......
Also that claim about babies having heart attacks after being snipped is kind of rediculous...... If some one would come at me with a knife to snip me now, I would have a heart attack but I seriously doubt any baby ever had a heart attack from the quick snip.....
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12-25-04, 10:22 AM
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Yo..RMBolton....Like I said, I have talked to many a doc about it when I was going to cut my son when he was born and, not one, could tell me that non-circumsision was a greater safety issue than circumsision.....so I said why have surgery (on an important part) for no reason.....urban myths are strong, so strong in fact that non-religious people tend to follow them in the first days of parenthood by being overprotective and listening to their fears...but that's OK too... just learn the facts and not the fear.
With all this circumsision talk how can I get one of those hairless hampsters now..how can I hug the little thing without feeling weird...lol
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12-25-04, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by chas*e
just learn the facts and not the fear.
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Yo, chas*e, like you said, learn the facts and not the fear. I've provided the facts, where are yours? Weren't you the one that said people wrongly believe that being uncircumcised causes UTIs? When, in fact, the significant majority of infant boys with UTIs are uncircumcised. I've read nothing but unsubstantiated hearsay and fear throughout this whole thread. The fact is the pros outweigh the cons of circumcision, but ultimately the choice is yours and I could care less what you do or don't do. I respectfully suggest that you learn the facts and not the fear...
Ryan
edit: For the record, I am neither for nor against circumcision and have not yet had to make the decision, so I have merely chosen a side to debate - I could argue against circumcision just as easily.
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12-25-04, 10:53 AM
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Does this look familiar to those of you who are..... 'uncut'..
Ahhhh, good ol' Earthworm Jim
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12-25-04, 12:23 PM
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lmao Matt, that is hilarios
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12-25-04, 04:22 PM
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Yo, RMBolton...I made a deal with myself long ago....I WILL NOT ARGUE ABOUT MALE PRIVATE PARTS....LoL...No offence taken I don't have any details besides what I was told by doctors that I asked myself
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12-25-04, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by chas*e
I made a deal with myself long ago....I WILL NOT ARGUE ABOUT MALE PRIVATE PARTS....
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LOL, that sounds like a good deal to me too! It was a good discussion though...
Merry Christmas,
Ryan
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01-07-05, 06:42 PM
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Note to self, don't bring up bald animals in the near future.
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01-07-05, 07:05 PM
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sorry but thats disgusting
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01-07-05, 07:08 PM
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LMFAO!!!! Don't you think its going a bit too far?
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01-08-05, 10:21 PM
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The origin of circumcision(like so much other BS) has it's begining in the book of Gen. God commanded all Jews to have it done on the eigth day of a boy's life. The reason given is" cleanliness"which makes one wonder why god made it that way in the first place, only to have it cut off later?
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