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[gfisher2002]

Originally posted by yellermelon

she helps lots of people here and for her troubles some idiots are cussin out her friends over the phone and somebody hacked her website. you people should be ashamed.

This stuff happened over this arguement in this thread?
I sure hope not. That would definately be grounds for being banned. I hope nobody here has made personal attacks on eyespy through her website or on the phone. Arguing on a forum is one thing but when you get into someones personal life, you're playing with fire. If it happened to me it would only happen once. You never know what kind of person is sitting behind that computer.

I hope this is resolved quickly and quietly, because, I don't know about everyone else, but this sh*t is NOT what I'm all about. I hate seeing two so informative and intelligent people biting at eachother's necks. Shake and make up.

Cheers,
Garrett

[eyespy]

Yes, it's true. Phone numbers and IPs are being traced and I am still deciding whether I will be filing criminal charges. Confidential medical records were accessed and some were deleted. Some person(s) used phone numbers on those records to place harassing calls. Those records were the joint property of myself, the vet of record and the animals' owners so more charges may be filed later if those people choose to do so.

[Grant vg]

You've got to be kidding me??

I sure hope those phone numbers and IP addy's turn out to be Chris' (for your sake..anyways) because those are some pretty big "implied" accusations your throwing around.

Perhaps you should mention that the phone calls took place yesterday (sunday) before all this began.

And shall i add that if "smarts" were measured by knowledge of computers and hacking.....Chris would have a peanut for a brain!! (haha Chris...I couldn't resist!)

See you at the court hearing bud!!! hahaha.

geeze............................................. ..too funny.

and Lisa.... take all this debating into consideration and draw your own conclusions. Not everyone will agree on the best way to do things.

[eyespy]

Had I known the phone calls took place starting Sunday I definitely would not have voiced my suspicions so strongly. Chris, I owe you an apology for that. I've spent enough time on the web to know that lurkers often are the culprits.

I didn't learn when the first phone call took place until the person who received it came to visit me this evening. I learned about 10:00 pm tonight that at least one of the calls was placed from California.

[marisa]

<img src="http://8snakes.myftp.org/marisa/boxturt.jpg">

Marisa
P.S. Apologies in advance. I tried to resist but I couldn't help trying to bring this thread back down to earth guys.

[Dani33]

LOL Marisa!

[gfisher2002]

lol funny stuff Marisa. Did you make that?

[Linds]

LOL great pic Marisa

Originally posted by SCReptiles
What is yout take on the hay?

I would definitely be concerned using hay in a damp environment. I've worked with A LOT of hay throughout my life to know that it molds very easy when wet.

Originally posted by eyespy
Yes, that is very true that they encounter the stuff in the wild, but only wild-caught boxies have such immunities. Herps are not born with any immunities since they get no blood from their mothers. It is only by encountering and fighting off pathogens in their daily life that they acquire antibodies.

If these animals are exposed to these pathogens day to day in captivity then it wouldn't really be any different from the wild in that they still form some sort of resistance to their surroundings. I keep my animals in far from sterile conditions so they do build up some sort of tolerance (mind you they aren't living in their own filth). Any healthy animal is capable of building up resistances if it is exposed to a controlled amount IMHO.

[tHeGiNo]

LMAO, this is the funniest thread I have ever seen in my life. So this whole time, EyeSpy was a fake eh? I think she is making that whole hacking bullish up.

[gfisher2002]

I'm a fake too. Really I'm a midget with no toes and an IQ of 58. I like to pretend I have animals and a life but I don't. I live mostly in My Maytag box behind the Walmart and have no friends. Will someone please be my friend? Please??!!

I'm so lonely. 'sigh'

[meow_mix450]

lmao ha ha wow.........

Meow