For all the "Kids" who want a Burmese Python!!! - Page 4

lordkovacs · 03-05-03, 11:37 AM

For anyone to take time out of their day to clean up someone else's mess is great. So some of you know more than others. Some of you who are preaching like your some Gods or something also have people that know a hell of a lot more about snakes then you do! So, perhaps you are doing something wrong in your snake handling and don't even know about it. I just hope someone shoves it down your throat. He without sin cast the first stone. Just be thankful there is people out there willing to grab an 18' snake. I sure as hell would be more apprehensive. Grow up.

BWSmith · 03-05-03, 12:35 PM

ummm.. Who was that directed too? it was fairly ambiguous.

You are right, there are always those that know more.

lordkovacs · 03-05-03, 03:41 PM

It was directed at anyone who would criticize someone for doing a deed I'm sure not all of us would readily do. And rather than making someone feel they've done a wrong thing on an open forum, maybe sending a pm would be more of cronstructive criticism. Just a thought... later all.
cheers,
Mike

BWSmith · 03-05-03, 07:25 PM

OK, so you agree with Faze's actions. Very nice. A little clearer now.

reptilesalonica · 03-06-03, 06:54 PM

I'm very new here. I liked very much what ZoeStevens said and i agree totaly. I am only going to say that. If someone respects himself once, he ought to respect nature creatures twice. He is the "man" while such reptiles needs his knowledge, experience and care to live their long lives, apart from nature. If you want to have a big snake in your house, you must first have a big question. "Can i support this creature and being responsible to it?"

kelly · 03-07-03, 07:02 PM

well first off..how we obtained this snake... faze and i own our own petstore here in south fla. one afternoon he got a call from this woman who couldnt keep him anymore..to make a long story short, he had no choice but to go get the snake without any help. we had nothing to keep him in, other than the trunk.(too large) and yes, we know what were doing. we were his only hope. the lady said she was gonna "get rid of him" meaning kill him. he couldnt drive safely with a 17ft burmese python crawling throughout our car. espically for an hour and a half. the snake is now doing good..bieng kept in the back of our petstore, away from all the comoton. we get calls daily from customers wondering if we will take their snakes, iggys..and etc.. we do all that we can, but we only have so much room, and can find homes so fast. its not easy dealing with this type of thing..go ahead and try to tell us that we dont know what were doing..but weve been doing this for quite some time. keeping our sanity is hard enough to deal with the store..and then to have a small rescue on the side. frankly im quite dissappointed in the fact that some of you jumped to conclusions saying that we didnt know what we were doing, when you didnt even know us. i have quite a collection myself, ranging from bcc's to bearded dragons. and in my collection you will not find any burm..i refuse to carry them in my store, and am not yet ready to keep one personally for any long period of time. i WILL NOT add to the problem. keeping them untill i find a home is a different story. im sorry that some of you feel that it was wrong to put him in the trunk..but with not knowing his temperment i wouldnt advise driving and hour and a half by yourself with snake of that size loose in your small car. lol..not safe..that has accident waiting to happen all over it. again.. sorry to upset any of you.. but when it comes to something like that, and we get calls, we will do all we can to help, and in this case, that was our only option... im not trying to start an argument or anything..just letting you all know the facts..some of our friends can tell ya the same thing..i promise, were not bad people

Xetox · 03-07-03, 08:56 PM

I think you did a great thing, and would not worry about what others think, you got him out of a bad place and he is doing good now. What else would you want?

BurmBaroness · 03-07-03, 08:59 PM

Kelly, you and Joe are not bad people, you are animal angels.

The_Snake_King · 03-08-03, 10:55 AM

I don't feel that they should have to defend themselves. The people who posted saying bad things about how the snake was moved, have never moved a 16 foot burm in an emergency, by thenselves. They probably haven't even handled a snake that large. It is not an esay task. Even if Joe knew that snake to be baby tame, I woudn't have moved it any other way. You simply canot drive a car with a snake that big roaning free in the car for 1 1/2 hours.

Those of you who posted about how bad it was to move it the way he did, please think about what you would have done in the same situation. And only post when you have as much experience with rescues as they do.

ReptiZone · 03-08-03, 11:16 AM

I dont run a rescue but I am a person of procedure if I knew I was going after a burm I would bring all the necessary stuff. Dont get me wrong don't stuff it in the back seat of a car but bring a bag made from sheats big enough to carry the snake and there is no reason not to know the size of the snake cause the person called these people to go pick it up and if they didnt tell them how big it was..they should have asked to be prepared for the situation. I agree they did what they had to do at that moment, and they did a great deed removing the python and finding a home or trying to find a home (either way). There should be procedures for situations like that. All is done and over with..its in the past.. like i always say, live and learn. The next call you receive like that ..you will remember this thread and all the good and negative things that were said. In my opinion the only thing i would have been really worried about..was the carbon monoxide poisoning

but im sure the animal is doing fine now.

Chondro Python

The_Omen · 03-08-03, 11:29 AM

I really see no need to continue with the negative vibes here.

In rescue, if you get a call about an animal that WILL BE KILLED unless you get there ASAP, you have to move as quickly as possible whether you have the proper supplies or not.

Sometimes you don't have the luxury of having every size bag or secure enclosure in your hands at all hours of the day.

In a perfect world, we would have everything we needed at any given time.
But in that same perfect world, we would not need most of that stuff anyway.....

kelly · 03-08-03, 12:06 PM

very true, thankyou.

Pixie · 03-08-03, 01:08 PM

Yes, enough with the negativity. In my eyes, anyone who would rescue a 16' burm on such short notice should be commended not criticized. It isn't a perfect world and you can't always have everything on hand at the very moment such a task has to be done.

Sheesh, some of you make it sound like they dragged the snake home behind the car!!!

Pixie

reptilesalonica · 03-08-03, 02:42 PM

Yes, i can only agree with you Kelly! You did a great job. This is what matters. If you are going to save someone and the time is not on your side, the last thing you will think about is the...bag

... Come on you guys, don't stuck in such details.
Take care you all~take care of your herps~Greg

Reptscue · 03-09-03, 04:52 PM

I stopped by Joe's and took some pictures for everyone.

The 1''x2'' stick beside her is 8 foot long, the tiles she is on are 14 inches, and the wall is 14 foot long.

Sorry, this picture didn't come out clear, but it gives you an idea.
This is Joe, Kelly, with Tiny. Tiny is such a snot, she hissed and squirmed the whole time.

Kim