Resuced Hog island boa and a few questions - Page 4

**Aaron_S** · 08-16-16, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by acidonangles

Didn't think this was gonna start a mini argument ��

No harm dude. No one is "arguing". Seems like healthy debate to the mod team. *takes off mod hat, it's purple.*

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Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785

People do stick 8' boas in tubs, all the time. I don't really feel a boa over 5' should be kept in a tub, but that's just me. Other people can keep them in one longer if they wish, but a full grown boa (which is usually over 6') isn't suitable for a rack or tub unless that boa is of a dwarf variety offered ample height.

Okay and when did we start discussing what ****** random keepers do here? As I said who brought up 8' boas in small tubs? Only you were thinking of it because to me and anyone else here, it didn't make sense! Further, what you feel and what is fact are two different things.

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I said nothing of length indicating health, just that certain lengths are average for certain ages. Despite an individual's growth rate, you are not going to get a boa to 6' by its 3rd birthday without overfeeding it in some capacity. That said, being a bit under or oversized is fine, so long as the snake is not being overfed as they do grow at their own pace.

You continually bring up length of snake vs. age as an indicator of it's health and not being stunted. A stunted snake isn't in good health, you have said "this snake at 4 - 5 feet at 3 years is not stunted". Which means you believe due to it's length that it's not unhealthy.

So I've raised far more snakes than you and most people on this forum. We're talking in the hundreds at this point. Of various species. I don't have the time to feed different every day of the week so they all get fed on the same day just some species get skipped a week or two.
Anyway, I've had the same species, from the same birth year, fed the same food supply, fed the same day grow at completely different rates. Again, why is everything so black and white for you? (You keep avoiding the question) These are living, breathing creatures so it's ignorant to go out and say "a 3 year old boa at 6 feet is overfed! No other reason for it!"

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Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785

Only way to tell is to post a picture so we can see the body tone. Feeding seems a bit too often but the weight seems ok. ....

It's cute that you feel you are some authority on boa body tone and feeding regiment.

**Minkness** · 08-16-16, 08:19 AM

^ This....all of this.....

**Andy_G** · 08-16-16, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Minkness

^ This....all of this.....

Yup...I thought it was just me.

**Aaron_S** · 08-16-16, 11:56 AM

I forgot my *mic drop*

acidonangles · 08-16-16, 12:46 PM

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More pics and the scale said he was 140g while not moving. When moving around it said he was around 90g.

I don't vape in my room with reptiles are spray anything strongly sented, but is vaping in the same room bad for them?

**Minkness** · 08-16-16, 01:13 PM

That weight seems off....I have a baby BP that's 184 grams and like...a footish long....

I still think he needs to be on rats. Either weaners or smalls once a week.

acidonangles · 08-16-16, 01:27 PM

I don't know if the scale is off or what happened. But I don't think that's his actual weight.

I used the serpent widget and he's about 3'3"

acidonangles · 08-16-16, 01:27 PM

I'll try reweighing him. I'll try something different

**Aaron_S** · 08-16-16, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by acidonangles

I'll try reweighing him. I'll try something different

If you have a bin with a lid on it use that. Put the bin on the scale with the lid then zero it out. Put the snake in the bin and replace lid. Voila should get a pretty good read.

**Minkness** · 08-16-16, 02:59 PM

That's what I have to do with my larger ones. Works pretty well.

**Andy_G** · 08-16-16, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I forgot my *mic drop*

...and now I've run away with your purple MOD hat too.

**Minkness** · 08-16-16, 03:34 PM

If only

**Aaron_S** · 08-16-16, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_G

...and now I've run away with your purple MOD hat too.

Why you gotta be like that?

**Minkness** · 08-16-16, 04:19 PM

Because he's awesome like that =P

bigsnakegirl785 · 08-16-16, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Okay and when did we start discussing what ****** random keepers do here? As I said who brought up 8' boas in small tubs? Only you were thinking of it because to me and anyone else here, it didn't make sense! Further, what you feel and what is fact are two different things.

You continually bring up length of snake vs. age as an indicator of it's health and not being stunted. A stunted snake isn't in good health, you have said "this snake at 4 - 5 feet at 3 years is not stunted". Which means you believe due to it's length that it's not unhealthy.

So I've raised far more snakes than you and most people on this forum. We're talking in the hundreds at this point. Of various species. I don't have the time to feed different every day of the week so they all get fed on the same day just some species get skipped a week or two.
Anyway, I've had the same species, from the same birth year, fed the same food supply, fed the same day grow at completely different rates. Again, why is everything so black and white for you? (You keep avoiding the question) These are living, breathing creatures so it's ignorant to go out and say "a 3 year old boa at 6 feet is overfed! No other reason for it!"

It's cute that you feel you are some authority on boa body tone and feeding regiment.

Because when people say they use racks, they normally use them for life, and although a juvenile or subadult is fine in one it seems a little restricting to keep a full grown adult in one.

Being stunted isn't necessarily an indicator of health, but of feeding. A snake that was previously stunted but then fed properly is a healthy snake. It's why I've been trying not to draw a line between being small/big and unhealthy. I have only been stating that boas reach certain lengths around certain ages on average with a proper feeding regimen. I have seen very few, if any boas reach 6' before they turned 3 without some sort of overfeeding. My own boa wouldn't have even reached 6' at 3 years if he hadn't gotten meals twice the size he should have been getting for over a month. He would have barely been over 5'. If either of my other boas reach 6' before (aka by, the word I've been using) they turn 3, I'll eat my words, but the average I see for 3 year olds is 4'-5'.

Yes they do grow at different rates, that doesn't make a 6' 3 year old any less overersized. If they got there without being powerfed, that's their own fast growth. They're still large for their age, the same could be said of humans if we want to compare them. A 6' 13 year old is still large, regardless of how they got there.

There's thousands of members on this forum, and many of them are active. If I thought I was an authority I would have asked them to send me a PM not post a picture.

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Originally Posted by acidonangles

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More pics and the scale said he was 140g while not moving. When moving around it said he was around 90g.

I don't vape in my room with reptiles are spray anything strongly sented, but is vaping in the same room bad for them?

I agree the weight sounds off...my 3' boa is over 100 grams heavier than your's.

I wouldn't vape in the same room, no, and if possible not the same house. As a person with asthma, I can tell you that smoke will travel throughout a house even with all the doors closed.