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10-28-14, 12:16 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Originally Posted by eminart
We really shouldn't get into this, but I'll just throw this out there........
Hunters have more respect for nature than non-hunters.
WHAT!? you say!
I assume you agree that in nature, animals eat other animals and it's all a big balance. I also assume that you agree that humans are omnivores, meaning that they evolved to eat at least some meat.
But, you're also going to say that it is now somehow superior to NOT eat meat, even though that is how nature is designed. So, you believe your silly human notions are superior to eons of natural design and nature. Why? Why is your sentimentality "better" than nature's design?
I'd also like to add, that here in the U.S. where we have very well regulated game management, hunting DOES help the animals. If you think some animals falling to predators is bad, then you have absolutely no understanding of how nature works.
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Can't you read or are you just ignorant??? I think i wrote i do eat meat and that a friend of mine is a hunter who kills to keep the balance in the piece of nature he's living/hunting in...
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10-28-14, 12:21 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Originally Posted by IW17
I don't know how to explain what I'm saying an better. Whether a hunter uses a gun, crossbow, bow, rock or a pointy stick, it's still just a tool to get the job done. It's a method used by a predator to catch prey.
As for overpopulation, there are more deer in the US now than hundreds of years ago. Between predator populations declining, or being wiped out for that matter, and the agricultural, we've given herbivores the necessary tools to flourish. Which is why every state has a dept of wildlife, who employees people to study animal populations and determine the number of animals to be culled each year to maintain a healthy population.
And to davidvb, saying that allowing a ten year old boy to kill a deer using a crossbow is wrong, could you please explain why?
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I guess our believes here are different from those in the US, but we (or at least I) don't like the idea of kids playing with any kind of weapon at all... I think history has proven us more than enough that ****ed up things can happen as a result of that. But again, that's my opinion
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10-28-14, 02:30 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Originally Posted by eminart
A deer shot with a rifle through the face would still be walking around too. That goes back to proper hunting ethics - practice and only taking good shots. A deer shot through the vitals with a bow dies in less than a minute in most cases. Humans kill far more quickly than almost any natural death that an animal will meet.
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Good point, guess I should say I'm more against head shots, then.
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10-28-14, 04:36 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Originally Posted by David VB
I guess our believes here are different from those in the US, but we (or at least I) don't like the idea of kids playing with any kind of weapon at all... I think history has proven us more than enough that ****ed up things can happen as a result of that. But again, that's my opinion 
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I don't think anyone should play with weapons(including adults). I think weapons should instead be used responsibly as tools, and not toys. Using a bow and arrow for hunting is not playing.
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10-28-14, 07:47 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Originally Posted by David VB
I guess our believes here are different from those in the US, but we (or at least I) don't like the idea of kids playing with any kind of weapon at all... I think history has proven us more than enough that ****ed up things can happen as a result of that. But again, that's my opinion 
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He wasn't playing with a weapon. He was hunting with it under the supervision of his father. And how can anyone be expected to use "dangerous" things if they are treated as the forbidden fruit. Life is dangerous. Death is all around us. What better way to avoid death or injury than by education and experience?
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10-28-14, 09:24 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Originally Posted by eminart
The fact is, albino deer tend to be genetically inferior. You never see a truly big one, they often have poor eyesight, and they have smaller antlers. Humans have replaced the deers' natural predators in most places, so WE are the ones that weed out the weak. If we let the albinos live because we think they're somehow special, we're just allowing inferior genes an unfair advantage over more robust genes.
So, it's not only a silly human sentiment to let the white ones walk, but it's also detrimental to the herd.
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yes it's human sentiment.but imo it's not silly...
so we should kill albino lions.tigers.etc because they are detrimental to the pride
i'm sorry but that whole statement just makes me feel sorry for all those folk who cannot see it as a thing of beauty and just see it as another slab of inferior designed meat
cheers shaun
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