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03-06-14, 05:24 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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Thanks. I would say heating it up could work that it might bring out the scent more...no clue if that's any kind of scientific reason or just random thoughts.
Literally too lazy to check for google It never really occured to me either.
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It does make sense though, like a very small version of how dinner smells stronger when its cooking.
I've got a pine that likes warm water thawed, a bull snake that ironically likes to let them sit for a while, one corn that likes them warm, one that doesn't care, and a rat that would eat while I was holding him.
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03-06-14, 05:28 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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What is the harm in taking it out of the living room? Because it is not eating and the fact that you are handling it so soon I have little doubt that it is stressed, and I would suggest trying the suggestions that have been posted. If it doesn't work you can at least shut up the people that you are trying so hard to prove wrong. If you want them to listen, provide tangible proof. I'm sorry if it appears as though I am still fixating on one issue, but I do not feel it is being investigated enough. If you disagree, like I said, prove the others wrong. Do what they said and see what happens. I can promise you there is nothing wrong with that.
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Handling it so soon ? Aaron says you can feed them 48 hours after shipping.
It's not going to hurt anything other than moving her to another tank which I just don't want to do when there's no reason for it, and I'm not handling her because she ate recently.
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03-06-14, 06:08 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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Handling it so soon ? Aaron says you can feed them 48 hours after shipping.
It's not going to hurt anything other than moving her to another tank which I just don't want to do when there's no reason for it, and I'm not handling her because she ate recently.
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Incorrect.
I feed snakes within 24 hours of recieving them. A properly set up snake eats when offered.
I am talking all species but ball pythons in particular who are notorious for not eating.
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03-06-14, 06:12 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
so that's an absolute rule? a properly set up snake eats when offered. PERIOD?
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03-06-14, 06:18 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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so that's an absolute rule? a properly set up snake eats when offered. PERIOD?
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Maybe when putting words in peoples mouths you should put your own advice in there so you can here what you want to.
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03-06-14, 06:19 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
I will often feed a snake the day it arrives, but I try to refrain from handling unless I need to(change dirtied newspaper substrate).
This is just an assumption.... but I'm guessing if you handle a new snake and cause it to "flee" there is a higher risk of it refusing a meal.
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03-06-14, 06:21 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
how am I putting words in anyone's mouth. I asked if it was an absolute rule and quoted what he said so he knew what part I was talking about.
His words "a properly set up snake eats when offered"
I'm asking if that's an absolute rule.
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03-06-14, 06:23 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792
I will often feed a snake the day it arrives, but I try to refrain from handling unless I need to(change dirtied newspaper substrate).
This is just an assumption.... but I'm guessing if you handle a new snake and cause it to "flee" there is a higher risk of it refusing a meal.
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that sounds reasonable. I was just going by how may people say leave a snake alone for a week before offering it food
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03-06-14, 06:23 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
A general rule in my life is that there is no absolute rule.
However, a properly set up and healthy snake should be eating, no questions asked.
For perspective, I have done this with dozens and dozens of snakes. Wild caughts and captives. As Mikoh, I have no problem attempting to feed in the same day they arrive. Nothing says "settled in and stress free" like an eating snake.
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03-06-14, 06:24 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
and terra, you can be as childish as you want with your pictures, I got the snake to eat didn't I? Yup, you're right, I don't know ANYTHING.
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03-06-14, 06:27 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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A general rule in my life is that there is no absolute rule.
However, a properly set up and healthy snake should be eating, no questions asked.
For perspective, I have done this with dozens and dozens of snakes. Wild caughts and captives. As Mikoh, I have no problem attempting to feed in the same day they arrive. Nothing says "settled in and stress free" like an eating snake.
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Well put, and I totally agree. Generally, a properly setup snake will eat when offered. But more specifically it was not a settling in or a stress related issue or a setup issue, it was a prey issue. That should be obvious now.
Not to mention, since a properly set up snake will eat when offered, does that not mean that my setup is proper?
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03-06-14, 06:33 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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03-06-14, 06:35 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
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I'll be nice if Yoko will
just because he's mad I'm right doesn't mean he has to drag Gene Wilder into this :P
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03-06-14, 06:39 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
and just for the record, although I could appreciate their music, I was never much of a fan for the Beatles as a whole, but always loved John Lennons part in it
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03-06-14, 06:41 PM
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Re: Feeding advice for yellow rat
What ...are you 10 yrs old? Please show us a nice lump in this small snake. Post it.. I'm mad because you came here asking our advice and then told us we were pushy and not listening when we did.
Like I said ...good luck with your goat.
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