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[infernalis]

He attacked me once for nothing but the thread title!

I posted a video clip on KS, and he went off without even watching the video. So whatever his beef with me was, apparently was the thread title, because that was the only text that accompanied the video, yet he saw fit to attack it.

When I asked if he watched the video, he replied that he didn't have time to watch it.

So why the frak comment on it at all?

Th video clip was 90 seconds long, no time to watch the clip, but plenty of time to invest attacking me for posting it??? ( I know he spent a lot more than 90 seconds arguing with me)

[murrindindi]

Originally Posted by monitorlizard

I'm going to wait until tomorrow to read it so I have more time. That's quite a lot of reading to digest...

I`m not sure you`ll be able to actually "digest" it all in one single day, and you`ll surely need longer than that to recover from the dizzy spells....

[murrindindi]

Originally Posted by infernalis

He attacked me once for nothing but the thread title!

I posted a video clip on KS, and he went off without even watching the video. So whatever his beef with me was, apparently was the thread title, because that was the only text that accompanied the video, yet he saw fit to attack it.

When I asked if he watched the video, he replied that he didn't have time to watch it.

So why the frak comment on it at all?

Th video clip was 90 seconds long, no time to watch the clip, but plenty of time to invest attacking me for posting it??? ( I know he spent a lot more than 90 seconds arguing with me)

Wayne, if you insist on posting threads/videos/replies using the correct spelling/grammar the whole darn time, don`t be surprised if "some people" do get angry with yoo.... (yuw?)....


(You`re such a showoff)...

[crocdoc]

Originally Posted by monitorlizard

I like to look at them as heated debates.

A debate is where both sides present reasonable information and a judge decides on a winner. An argument is when one side just rants, long after being provided with evidence contrary to their position.

Originally Posted by monitorlizard

Could you send me a link to this/these threads.

Here are some samplings. There are others, but these are probably the main ones (if you want to see the lot, go to that forum and look at that rough time period as there are some shorter threads as well). What I haven't included is links to the discussion going on, on his own forum, relating to this. That's where his minions would explain why he was 'right', even though none of them had ever been to Australia. Call it religious fervour.

more on nest boxes, from below
lace monitor nesting, simplified
results for FR, from below

I wish I had time to find it, but somewhere (it may even be in one of those threads) there is an exchange between myself and one of FR's disciples in which he states that the holes in the termite mounds were circumstantial evidence (even though they have claw marks all around them, are the exact size of a female monitor, there are no other local animals that dig into mounds in that manner and I FOLLOWED IT UP WITH PHOTOGRAPHS OF AN ACTUAL FEMALE MONITOR DIGGING INTO THE MOUND). Now THAT is dedication to one's idol.

Originally Posted by monitorlizard

Could you send me a link to one of these rants as well?

Re: the anti-academic rants. I honestly do not have time to go trawling through his posts to find examples to show you. That would be time consuming and pointless. Here's what I suggest you do: Go to his site and click on his posts until you see a long one with a lot of text, then do a 'Ctrl F' search for the words 'academic', 'scientist' or 'biologist' (and hope he spelled it correctly). It shouldn't take long before you have dozens of examples. If not lately (I haven't read his garbage in a year or so), then search older posts. The anti-academic attitude is rife there, I'm not making this up.

[crocdoc]

Originally Posted by murrindindi

a few months ago Frank stated he didn`t want any links posted of his threads on other websites, and I think we should respect that decision

The guy has misquoted me several times in an attempt to make me look like a fool. He's even made up things I've supposedly 'said' to him in conversations (like the one in which he claims I told him there were only ever 8 recorded instances of lace monitors nesting in termite mounds, ever). I'm not sure why we should have to respect his bizarre wishes? If he posts crap on a public forum, it's public.

[smy_749]

If he doesn't want people to see what he's posting, don't post or post on a private forum.

[StudentoReptile]

Originally Posted by crocdoc

A debate is where both sides present reasonable information and a judge decides on a winner. An argument is when one side just rants, long after being provided with evidence contrary to their position.

I wish my wife would understand that distinction!

I'm not sure why we should have to respect his bizarre wishes? If he posts crap on a public forum, it's public.

If he doesn't want people to see what he's posting, don't post or post on a private forum.

Ditto. If you don't want it repeated or used against you, don't post it on the internet...anywhere...period.

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

I wish all the wives of the world would understand that distinction!


Ditto. If you don't want it repeated or used against you, don't post it on the internet...anywhere...period.

I fixed it for you

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi Wayne, a few months ago Frank stated he didn`t want any links posted of his threads on other websites, and I think we should respect that decision!

No can do.

Once he decides to post something publicly it is public information. He has the mods edit and remove things. I take screen shots before removal.

If he wants ANY respect from me, he can earn it like anyone else.

I don't give respect away for free.

[Barlow]

While I understand peoples grievances with Frank I feel it cannot be overlooked that the fact is he has done great work and educated a lot of people about the captive breeding of monitors. Also the way he looks at animals and teaches people to look at animals in a different way to the norm (ethology) amazes me. He may have a very large ego, and that ego probably got in the way of him being more successful with varius but the people I see clash with him the most seem to be people with similar egos. I see very FR like posts from people who attack him the most on other forums. And some poeple in my opinion go a step lower than he does. If you don't like him you can ignore him. But to create websites trying to discredit him, or to make fun of the fact that he has had long term captive females (varius) die is just plain rotten. FR gives his opinions be they wrong or right. He doesn't make fun of a dead Chomper, in fact I bet that saddens him, not makes him happy that somone failed. And to make fun of his spelling when he has admitted he has dyspraxia (or something similar) is schoolground behaviour. Highlighting someones disability is discrimination and not nice. I do see the bad sides to FR and have personally witnessed some of his "tall claims" myself, but he has taught me a lot and made me use my brain more than any other "expert" out there. Some may see his long posts as cryptic but for me they have helped me to seek out the answers for myself with a little help. I seem to be doing ok for now. Maybe FR and me will have a clash or two in the future, who knows? I still owe the guy a lot.

BTW, my username on there is CJ.

[KORBIN5895]

There is a thread on his forum where someone tells him his heating method for snakes is outdated and unsafe. His method was to use three free and unprotected lights for a snake enclosure. Frankipoo tells the user that he is uncreative, lazy and simple because the user recommended a radiant heat panel. Now that's a class act.

[smy_749]

I'm new here, and was pretty unbiased coming into the forums for knowledge. I was directed to his site, and I don't think anyone here will deny his success, or deny that he does have good info (not saying its all good), I just don't think someone who is an a-hole should be treated in the way that HE thinks he should be treated. If you are an a-hole, expect people to call you an a-hole. And perhaps the reason there is no forum threads dedicated to other varanid keepers, is because of that same fact, they are not jerks. This forum has a much different environment, that welcomes people with inexperience, but doesn't baby them. His site treats everyone as though they should have jumped out of the womb with knowledge of husbandry and a reputation for breeding success. And he shows his fair share of disrespect, most notably (received more than one of these responses in less than a week):

"hahahahahahaahahaha your doing everything wrong, my technique, patented by me, which I created, which is the best technique, is much better than your technique which is basically my technique, but I have to say its different because mine is better hahahahaha hmmmmmmmmmm."

Not saying its correct, but he yelled at me for my Rubbermaid enclosure because it doesn't give them any view points to see surroundings *(which I agree is not adequate or decent and thats why I rehomed my roughneck today to someone with a ready enclosure) , yet he posts pictures of his backyard, and his enclosures are circular bins with pool-liner tops which also have no view points to the outside world? He ALWAYS assumes your doing it wrong, and works from there, even if I copy pasted his exact husbandry technique, he would probably say its wrong, and repeat it in different wording. And the people I have dealt with on this forum (murrundidi or whatever, crocdoc, and infernalis) have not had the same "ego" as him by any means, again, coming from an unbiased view of someone new to all of this. And most importantly, nobody makes 0 mistakes, so when someone doesn't admit to making mistakes, I am automatically going to assume he is delusional.

[Donnie]

He sounds like a lovely chap (this was the closest smiley I could find for sarcasm )

[Lankyrob]

Do we really need three pages of bashing a guy that isnt even here to respond?

[smy_749]

Send him a link then?