Chillin' Like a Villain - Page 3

Corey209 · 03-09-13, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You're cute when you try to act smart.

Just because someone has a video of them doing something doesn't mean they are right. There's lots of videos of savannah monitors kept "properly" to the people who take them. We all know differently though, don't we?

That's completely irrelevant to Zoo's and wild life reserves that train their animals... There's no reason to always turn a discussion into an attack of negative remarks.

I don't agree with holding a reptile on your chest for efforts of taming because as you said it's most likely stressed but I doubt the gators living in the zoos and reserves with massive enclosures and no threats to their life are stressed out when they get their training.

**Aaron_S** · 03-09-13, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovemypets1988

hey jeepers, let me know how the tongs on the fish tail works as im interested in the out come.

there are a few people on this planet that interact with larger animals, take lions for example and go look up the name Craig Busch or even just " the lion man" in New Zealand and ull see what i mean.

This is stupid. Take ONE person in the ENTIRE world and apply it to a completely different kind of animal.

So all the people who say their snakes bond with them would be correct even though the vast majority prove otherwise?

Jeepers · 03-09-13, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I don't even think you know what you're doing based on the fact you prefer to make a large enclosure more land space than water space. That's a joke and a half. Do some research.

Excuse me? Maybe YOU need to do your research. Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman, AS ADULTS, prefer MORE LAND OVER WATER. Right now, as a HATCHLING, he has MORE WATER than land.

ilovemypets1988 · 03-09-13, 05:13 PM

fine, ill make it very relevant, i wasnt gunna say his name as i thought it was disrespectful in this situation but go look at Steve Irwin and what he done, its that simple

Jendee · 03-09-13, 05:13 PM

good to hear!!

I think it would be fun to have a caiman, I was joking about it to my family the other night. But its personally not for me. I look forward to watching him grow with you

ilovemypets1988 · 03-09-13, 05:14 PM

and i said interact not bond

**Aaron_S** · 03-09-13, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey209

That's completely irrelevant to Zoo's and wild life reserves that train their animals... There's no reason to always turn a discussion into an attack of negative remarks.

I don't agree with holding a reptile on your chest for efforts of taming because as you said it's most likely stressed but I doubt the gators living in the zoos and reserves with massive enclosures and no threats to their life are stressed out when they get their training.

I think they are still fools. I have yet to see many of these places actually train crocs.

They use the animal's natural instinct to seem like they are trained. Nice try though.

Again, a lot of zoos and places keep other reptiles improperly so why would they be infalliable here?

**Aaron_S** · 03-09-13, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovemypets1988

fine, ill make it very relevant, i wasnt gunna say his name as i thought it was disrespectful in this situation but go look at Steve Irwin and what he done, its that simple

Yeah? He certainly played with his gators. All those handling sessions and allowing them to sleep in his bed.

We're not talking about MAINTENANCE and FEEDINGS that he did. You're still wrong.

**Aaron_S** · 03-09-13, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepers

Excuse me? Maybe YOU need to do your research. Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman, AS ADULTS, prefer MORE LAND OVER WATER. Right now, as a HATCHLING, he has MORE WATER than land.

Pick out the one part I may be wrong on. ONE part...good try. Guess you can't respond to anything else I said. Sad really.

Jeepers · 03-09-13, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jendee

good to hear!!

I think it would be fun to have a caiman, I was joking about it to my family the other night. But its personally not for me. I look forward to watching him grow with you

Thanks! And, in this sort of situation, I really have to thank you for being helpful. I'll continue to do my research. I already had a large respect for alligators and crocs growing up, thought they were beauties, and I had no idea about the dwarves until a while back, so I figured this would be good starting grounds. I think I'll read everything I can(well, more than I've already read), watch everything, talk with other keepers, etc. Maybe dedicate my life to 'em. I know I probably won't ever be anything close to a huge biome that a zoo can offer(you know, large enclosures that probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars), but I think working in a zoo program with these wonderful real life dinosaurs would be an amazing experience in my later years!

Jeepers · 03-09-13, 05:21 PM

Really, I think it boils down to Aaron abhors the thought of absolutely ANYBODY that owns a crocodilian or alligator and they're all WRONG no matter what they do. This being said, just stop blabbering off negativity in my thread. Go somewhere else. If you're so mad about people owning them, go to the forum rants section and leave me alone.

ilovemypets1988 · 03-09-13, 05:26 PM

hey jeepers, id suggest looking into people who have experience in these creatures, both dwarf and full sized animals, id suggest Steve Irwin, Steve Austins, etc, watch some videos and take notes on how they handled everyday situations and the not so everyday situations.

also go to a local zoo or wildlife park and talk to the keepers, they will be very interested in what you have to say and may even allow you to learn from them.

**lady_bug87** · 03-09-13, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepers

PS: Probably going to ignore you from now on unless you actually have something helpful to say instead of throwing crap at me. People come here to learn, if they didn't know something. They don't come here to be spat on.

Please go back and re-read what I wrote. Then tell me where exactly I was 'crapping' on you since I'm pretty sure I wasn't the least bit judgmental. However *if* you're expecting people who slightly disagree with you to humor you then I'm afraid you'll find yourself wanting

Akuma223 · 03-09-13, 06:31 PM

Hey jeepers, try not to get too irritated with people here. They all mean the best for the animal but some sound like jerks as they go about it. This Caimen is new to you and you have seemed to have done a lot of good research on it. Do what I do and take a breather from the forum when you need to, but still heed any advice given. I understand exactly how irritating it is when one says "you have bitten of more than you can chew". I had a similar attitude as you with handling my Black roughneck monitor, new animals are a learning experience. You clearly don't seem like the kind of person who will toss their animal when they figure its too much for them and maybe thats where everyones bad attitude is coming from.

Just ignore the insults and pay attention to any advice.

Pirarucu · 03-09-13, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepers

Wow, is that his set up? Those are the kind of enclosures I -dream- of, I love realism and trying to replicate a natural environment as close as possible. He should really tell people how he managed such a beautiful mini-biome.

Without getting into the rest of this thread.. Wish granted.
The ]v[onster has begun!!!!