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01-19-13, 12:45 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity
Dude, you weren't "wolf packed." Two people disagreed with you and discussed the disagreement, and it was over until you brought it up again. Don't be so overdramatic. Just chill.
I still think it'd be really cool to have a snake in the 130 gallon. So much could be done with that space if utilized properly.
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I found it necessary to point out (what I thought of) a hypocritical statement.
I'm not being over-dramatic, it just seemed even though I tried to make it clear I admittedly made a mistake and was done arguing about it, you both continued to point out what I did wrong. Corey, I thank you for apologizing, but Calam, I don't believe you can justify yourself by telling me that I have to "just chill". I wanted to "just chill", so I decided to take the mature route and admit that I was wrong; yet you still decided I would make a good target for continued admonishment.
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01-19-13, 12:57 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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Originally Posted by Calihusker
I found it necessary to point out (what I thought of) a hypocritical statement.
I'm not being over-dramatic, it just seemed even though I tried to make it clear I admittedly made a mistake and was done arguing about it, you both continued to point out what I did wrong. Corey, I thank you for apologizing, but Calam, I don't believe you can justify yourself by telling me that I have to "just chill". I wanted to "just chill", so I decided to take the mature route and admit that I was wrong; yet you still decided I would make a good target for continued admonishment.
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Dude, you weren't "wolf packed." There was a disagreement. It was discussed. Fin. Just chill.
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Didn't think about that.. well, I'd still love to put a snake that burrows inside with bioactive substrate. Not sure if live plants would work so well.
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With all that height, there could be lots of whatever substrate OP wanted to choose. I'm sure live plants would work fine. I mean, I can't imagine why they wouldn't work, but I guess maybe there could be a reason. Would provide a nice natural look and some cover though. Could do branches with vines and such.
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01-19-13, 01:00 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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@Maggot, I've heard live plants don't do well with snakes because they tend to destroy them.
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Really? I know I've heard that for larger lizards and snakes (and tortoises), but I didn't know it applied to all of them. Very well might though. That would be a shame.
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01-19-13, 01:03 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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Really? I know I've heard that for larger lizards and snakes (and tortoises), but I didn't know it applied to all of them. Very well might though. That would be a shame.
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Well whenever I looked up live plants everyone just discouraged it no matter what snake it was but I don't know how well the snake would be able to burrow with plant roots unless it's potted.
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01-19-13, 03:18 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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Originally Posted by Calihusker
I personally am not a fan of placing snakes in enclosures that exceed their size by a large amount. They are hard to upkeep, the snake has possibilities of insecurity, and other difficult-to-work-with elements. Not to mention, OP said that it was an aquarium, meaning it would need modifying to be suitable for a snake. Instead of spending a ton of work on an over-sized enclosure for a small, beginner snake, it would be most reasonable to spend $5 on a bin or $25 on a small terrarium that you need no modification for, and are suitable for housing "beginner snakes".
So, briefly, technically it "could work", I just don't think it's a reasonable decision for OP, who is new to the reptile hobby.
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Don't take this wrong.
That tank would work awesome for a small group of garter snakes, a corn snake, king snake or a Racer would also do very well in there, and none of them are difficult to care for.
Upkeep would not be a challenge at all, bigger cages take longer to get dirty.
When set up correctly, there is no such thing as a cage too big, I just can't wrap my head around that one.
One of the extreme pleasures I have had in isolating my 40 acres is observing the patterns of the wildlife, my meadow is 14 acres alone, and the snakes out there are doing wonderfully and don't appear stressed.
If I had a tank this big, I would put a bunch of dirt in the bottom, plant grass, put in a pond, multiple hides, a climbing branch and enjoy watching even a small colubrid use every inch of the inside.
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01-19-13, 03:28 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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Originally Posted by infernalis
If I had a tank this big, I would put a bunch of dirt in the bottom, plant grass, put in a pond, multiple hides, a climbing branch and enjoy watching even a small colubrid use every inch of the inside.
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A pond would be awesome.. and by any chance do you know if western hognoses are active colubrids? Like if they'd make a good showcase snake or act like a ball python.. (furniture)
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01-19-13, 03:54 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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A pond would be awesome.. and by any chance do you know if western hognoses are active colubrids? Like if they'd make a good showcase snake or act like a ball python.. (furniture)
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I have never kept a hognose before, I have heard that they are shy.
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01-19-13, 04:06 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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I'm not sure about two garters though, as I think they're usually smaller and are better in groups than corns. But I don't know enough about them to really say anything on that.
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A couple or trio of colourful Garter Snakes placed in there would be a hoot to watch.
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01-19-13, 05:44 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
This is a duplicate thread!!
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01-19-13, 07:13 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
in case things look strange here, I merged the three identical threads into one, Standard practice here is we do not allow duplicate threads.
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01-19-13, 08:19 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
I don't have a top now but could build one or buy one.
I was looking at a half dawf burm I know it's an intermedant snake but I have had reptiles for years. Just new to snakes
I have a Iran jaya carpet python now.
And like snakes that are active, the ball python seems boring
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01-19-13, 08:32 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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In reference to the above reply..
I'm going to just come out and say there is no "beginner snake" existent that would live in a tank that size.
Cheers. ^_^
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I beg to differ with you. A tank that size properly setup would be garter snake heaven for the snake that lives in it. Room to explore and keep busy. Multiple hides and water dishes, sounds pretty good to me.
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01-19-13, 08:50 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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I beg to differ with you. A tank that size properly setup would be garter snake heaven for the snake that lives in it. Room to explore and keep busy. Multiple hides and water dishes, sounds pretty good to me.
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Sounds like a garter haven to me too....
That's some sound advice there folks..
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01-19-13, 08:51 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
Garter snakes sound interesting
I will look into them
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01-19-13, 08:52 AM
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Re: Empty 130 gal tank - snake suggestions please
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