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01-17-13, 07:22 AM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by Pareeeee
Uhm, what? I thought the only venomous lizards in the world were Jeweled Lizards and Gila Monsters?!
I think with other lizard bites it's more of an allergic reaction to the saliva and/or bacterial infection that causes reactions.
snakeman199318:
As long as you keep your wound very clean you will be fine. Also, if you are on antibiotics, they will prevent any infection. It will be painful but should be better soon.
No it will not kill you.
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 whoooaaaaaaaaaaaa., this comment really helps me a lot ., so refreshing ., hahahahah thanks a lot master !  though i cannot really express what i feel right now but so much thankful to you master Pareeeee
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01-17-13, 07:34 AM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by Grendel
Why does it look like there is a string or a snare around the monitor in the first picture. Looks to me like he just wild caught that monitor and that's why he does not know much about it yet.
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i am just afraid if it will escape again ., this is my second monitor ., i can't hold the first one and without tie he escaped ., that's why i put some rope around his waist to make sure he cant escape ,. in fact my parents got shock why did the monitor bite me for a long time that i'm holding it ., though not really long 
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01-17-13, 07:36 AM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by Pareeeee
Which looks nothing like the Beaded lizard...lol...
My mind cris-crosses words with somewhat similar meanings sometimes. It can be frustrating...or entertaining...or both. :P
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Lol no worries! Yea you had me looking it up everywhere trying to see if I was mistaken and they maybe go by the name jeweled too 
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01-17-13, 07:47 AM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by snakeman199318
i am just afraid if it will escape again ., this is my second monitor ., i can't hold the first one and without tie he escaped ., that's why i put some rope around his waist to make sure he cant escape ,. in fact my parents got shock why did the monitor bite me for a long time that i'm holding it ., though not really long |
You are so very lucky to live where you do, wild monitors, warm weather and pretty women, I want to move to the Philippines. 
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01-17-13, 05:19 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Wow, looking at that picture, your monitor was latched right on tight.
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In time, you'll look back on this and see a funny side =] especially now that you know it isn't venomous and wont' really do anything .. on a positive note you now know what to expect
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01-17-13, 05:23 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
@mrbosc, they are toxic
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01-17-13, 10:39 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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You are so very lucky to live where you do, wild monitors, warm weather and pretty women, I want to move to the Philippines. |
shaaaaaahahahahahaha between the two of us your the luckiest ., because you are living in such beautiful country unlike this country ., ., pretty women ? you can have my girl friends master ., saaaaahahaha 
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01-19-13, 10:17 AM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing
It's venomous, but not really enough to cause much harm to a human. People have gotten sick from a few species, but I've never heard of it from a water monitor.
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I have never even heard of anyone getting sick from the species kept in captivity. The worst I have ever heard about was a bite from a desert monitor (Varanus griseus). No sickness, no head ache. Just more pain, swelling, and bleeding. They just dont have the delivery system or the amount of toxins needed to causelong lasting, serious clinical problems in humans.
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01-19-13, 12:30 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
A good friend of mine nearly went to the hospital from a black tree monitor bite. Fever, dizzy, over all weakness lasting two days.
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01-20-13, 12:36 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
Gregg, are you familiar with the concept of a dry bite?
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01-20-13, 01:28 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by Pirarucu
Gregg, are you familiar with the concept of a dry bite?
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I'm confident Gregg is familiar with many concepts regarding Squamata.
Lame I know, but I couldn't resist temptation.
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01-20-13, 01:29 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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I'm confident Gregg is familiar with many concepts regarding Squamata.
Lame I know, but I couldn't resist temptation.
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HAHAHAHAHA! I scared my family laughing so hard.
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A seed is a tiny plant, in a box, with its lunch.
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01-20-13, 01:30 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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I'm confident Gregg is familiar with many concepts regarding Squamata.
Lame I know, but I couldn't resist temptation.
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LOL! Good one!
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01-20-13, 08:29 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by Pirarucu
Gregg, are you familiar with the concept of a dry bite?
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Actually I have been a hard core venomous snake keeper for a long time so I am indeed farmiliar with what a dry bite is. Venomous snakes have the ability to control venom yield. They have very advanced venom glands and muscle structure around the glands and ducts. Varanids on the other hand do not based on the location of the glands and their delivery system. They do not have hollow fangs where the duct is directly attached like it is in viperids or elapids nor do they have the muscles surrounding the glands and ducts.
I am pretty certain that they are not capable of delivering a dry bite.
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01-20-13, 09:07 PM
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Re: monitor bites ?
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Originally Posted by Gregg M
Actually I have been a hard core venomous snake keeper for a long time so I am indeed farmiliar with what a dry bite is. Venomous snakes have the ability to control venom yield. They have very advanced venom glands and muscle structure around the glands and ducts. Varanids on the other hand do not based on the location of the glands and their delivery system. They do not have hollow fangs where the duct is directly attached like it is in viperids or elapids nor do they have the muscles surrounding the glands and ducts.
I am pretty certain that they are not capable of delivering a dry bite.
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Let me put it another way. As you have said, their venom delivery system is poor. Is it not possible that the bites that did nothing didn't get any venom in them, or just not enough venom to do serious damage? Perhaps the animal would have to chew on you for a bit before it would have an effect. For instance, a quick bite from a False Water Cobra won't do much, even if it does get its fangs in. If you let it chew for a bit though, you have a good chance of having quite a bad reaction.
I also would point out that bee venom is harmless to most people too, that does not mean it isn't dangerous for some people.
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