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01-05-13, 08:26 AM
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Re: Problem
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Originally Posted by snakeking2k13
let me put it this way my local reptile shop (where i got my bp from) has over 45 years with bp's and THEY said there is NO need for humidity any thanks for all the help no offence are any thing i would rather be taking advice from them
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Okay. I'm done with you. Go kill your snake. Get off the forum. You're useless to everyone here.
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01-05-13, 08:28 AM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Problem
Then why did you come here asking for advice?
Oh wait, because your snake has issues due to you following poor husbandry.
Yes take their advice if you wish but do not post here asking for help when something else goes wrong( which it will) or your snake dies.
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01-05-13, 08:32 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Problem
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Originally Posted by snakeking2k13
right all of you that said he was dehydrated (including me) are wrong the people that said it was shedding are right just had to soak him in warm water for 1 hour and he is as good as new no need for humidity
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NO one actually said " your snake is dehydrated " .....
people merely suggested methods to deal with a dehydrated snake...
until pictures were posted,only you new how the snake looked..
its not a question of people being wrong,they gave advice on what little info was available...
re humidity
at the end of your post quoted above,you say NO NEED FOR HUMIDITY
BP's need to live at the correct humidity in order to shed eat and function properly mate
cheers shaun
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01-05-13, 08:37 AM
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Re: Problem
Um, OK.... Tropical snakes from one of the most humid parts of Africa don't need any humidity.
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01-05-13, 08:41 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Problem
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Originally Posted by snakeking2k13
let me put it this way my local reptile shop (where i got my bp from) has over 45 years with bp's and THEY said there is NO need for humidity any thanks for all the help no offence are any thing i would rather be taking advice from them
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on this thread you have had excellent and correct advice from BP keepers...
if you actually believe the guy in the shop has successfully kept BP's without humidity,then your just going to ruin every BP you get mate
i can count on one hand the amount of snake keepers around 45 years ago in the UK,so forget 45 years ago,go back a mere 20 years when keepers were using normal house hold bulbs to keep snakes alive,there were no reptile shops,reptile forums,reptile thermostats...
it was these people who helped turn the hobby into what it is today,all the old timers made it possible...
the guy in your local shop is a complete arsehole,you would be better conducting your own research,gleaming info from well established reputable Ball Python Keepers,and the many good books out there
i'm NOT being cheeky...
but look at the state your snake got into,keeping it the way the guy in the shop told you to...!!
cheers shaun
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01-05-13, 10:31 AM
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Non Carborundum Illegitimi
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Re: Problem
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Originally Posted by snakeking2k13
let me put it this way my local reptile shop (where i got my bp from) has over 45 years with bp's and THEY said there is NO need for humidity any thanks for all the help no offence are any thing i would rather be taking advice from them
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Can you name the shop? I want to ensure i never go there 
Balls need a MINIMUM of 55% humidity, now, in the UK we have high humidity but it isnt always over 55, and the snake needs over 60 when it is in shed.
If you are keeping him in a tub then it is possible that the humidity will stay above 50 in our climate but if you dont keep it over 60 during shed he WONT shed properly for you.
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01-05-13, 12:22 PM
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Re: Problem
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Originally Posted by snakeking2k13
right all of you that said he was dehydrated (including me) are wrong the people that said it was shedding are right just had to soak him in warm water for 1 hour and he is as good as new no need for humidity
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Okay, hun, let me try to explain this. Your snake was dehydrated because your humidity is too low. Once it got to soak, it was rehydrated - but that's temporary. It'll get dehydrated again unless you fix your humidity levels. Just because that pet shop has allegedly kept balls without keeping proper humidity levels, that doesn't mean they're thrived or that it's the way they should be kept. And I seriously doubt every single one of them was perfectly health, thriving, and lived the 20-30 years they should have.
~Maggot
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01-05-13, 05:09 PM
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Re: Problem
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Originally Posted by Lankyrob
Can you name the shop? I want to ensure i never go there
Balls need a MINIMUM of 55% humidity, now, in the UK we have high humidity but it isnt always over 55, and the snake needs over 60 when it is in shed.
If you are keeping him in a tub then it is possible that the humidity will stay above 50 in our climate but if you dont keep it over 60 during shed he WONT shed properly for you. |
Rob brings up a good point. Unlike here in most parts of the States, in the UK you could keep a snake in a carefully ventilated tub, with the proper substrate, at 60% or even higher without too much trouble. Its quite possible that this is what the shop does that the op was talking about, hence them saying that no extra humidity was needed. However, there is too much information we dont know to say that is true or not in this case, I suppose.
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