What new reptile should I get?? - Page 3

EmbraceCalamity · 01-04-13, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GarterPython

Well I dont know how big a 15 gallon is in dimentions but mine is 12x12x18 and it is big enough. I would like to get him a bigger one but he still has lots of room. And to tell you the truth I was to lazy to read all the replies so I don't know if anybody covered the chameleon thing. Just wanted to make sure.

I didn't say anything because I didn't want to without being positive. I do remember reading a bit about chameleons though, and they get quite large and are difficult to keep.

And a 20 gallon is usually considered the minimum for a full-grown crestie.

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Originally Posted by totheend

You can tip it up right....Or if it is well planted it should be fine.

It would need to be altered to keep the substrate and the humidity in. Not saying it can't be done. Just seems like something else would be easier.

They also sell conversion kits for regular tanks like that to make them arboreal and allow the substrate to be kept in.

~Maggot

iBaman · 01-04-13, 12:43 AM

they said they would get a screen enclosure for a cham. And as long as you have the right stuff and knowledge, you can do it. It's not impossible, and they're already on this forum for knowledge...why not point them in the right direction for the cham forum so they can make an educated decision on it?

EmbraceCalamity · 01-04-13, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by iBaman

they said they would get a screen enclosure for a cham. And as long as you have the right stuff and knowledge, you can do it. It's not impossible, and they're already on this forum for knowledge...why not point them in the right direction for the cham forum so they can make an educated decision on it?

I don't think anyone said it was impossible, just that it's probably not the best idea unless the OP is really into chameleons. Plus, I'm pretty sure screen enclosures can't work for chameleons, as they require moderate to high humidity levels, which can't really be maintained unless the area around the enclosure has high humidity too.

~Maggot

iBaman · 01-04-13, 12:48 AM

they need high ventilation as well...sorta like tarantulas. but I agree, they shouldn't get it if they aren't totally committed to it. they're so cool though...such feisty little buggers xD

Corey209 · 01-04-13, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

I don't think anyone said it was impossible, just that it's probably not the best idea unless the OP is really into chameleons. Plus, I'm pretty sure screen enclosures can't work for chameleons, as they require moderate to high humidity levels, which can't really be maintained unless the area around the enclosure has high humidity too.

~Maggot

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to keep chameleons in glass because they need ventilation which is why they use screen but I do recall seeing a video of a known breeder in Europe using ALL glass with all completely healthy chameleons inside.

GarterPython · 01-04-13, 12:51 AM

IBaman I see what your saying but I'm just saying that it is a lot of work to have a chameleon. You should have lots of research done on them before you even think about getting one. If you are up for learning about them Chameleon's Forum is a great place to learn. One of the smaller chameleons and cheaper chameleons are the Jackson's Chameleons. They need a 18x18x36 MINIMUM cage size and it needs to be screen. There is also lots of stuff you need to know about the lighting and what not. If you are serious about wanting to get a chameleon then I would go to the chameleon forum and ask any questions you have. Also feel free to P.M. Me any time to ask questions about them. I can answer most of the basic question for you and I also know some good care sheets for them. I you need any help concerning the Chameleon thing just PM me and I'll help you the best I can.

GarterPython · 01-04-13, 12:54 AM

And no thy need to be screen... Yes humidity can be a problem with some of them especially if you are in a really dry area but your chameleon will not thrive if it does not have high ventilation which is achieved by getting a screen enclosure

totheend · 01-04-13, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

I didn't say anything because I didn't want to without being positive. I do remember reading a bit about chameleons though, and they get quite large and are difficult to keep.

And a 20 gallon is usually considered the minimum for a full-grown crestie.It would need to be altered to keep the substrate and the humidity in. Not saying it can't be done. Just seems like something else would be easier.

They also sell conversion kits for regular tanks like that to make them arboreal and allow the substrate to be kept in.

~Maggot

The OP said they were willing to upgrade. There really isn't anything easier to keep than a rhac. The 15 as it is would be fine planted. Upgrade when needed.

EmbraceCalamity · 01-04-13, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GarterPython

And no thy need to be screen... Yes humidity can be a problem with some of them especially if you are in a really dry area but your chameleon will not thrive if it does not have high ventilation which is achieved by getting a screen enclosure

Are you on chameleonforums.com?

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Originally Posted by totheend

The OP said they were willing to upgrade. There really isn't anything easier to keep than a rhac. The 15 as it is would be fine planted. Upgrade when needed.

I know they did. I'm just talking about what is easiest with what they have. Again, from what I've found, it's generally agreed that 20 gallons is a minimum for adult cresties. I don't know about the other rhacs though.

~Maggot

SSSSnakes · 01-04-13, 04:02 AM

When getting a reptile, you should not being trying to find a reptile that fits into what enclosure and furnishing you have. It is more important to find a reptile that you really want and have a passion for. Getting animals that fit into what we already have, tends to cause these animals to become over looked and their care suffers due to a lack of interest. If you get what you are passionate about, even if you have to buy a new enclosure and furnishings will be much more rewarding for you and the animal.

Lankyrob · 01-04-13, 04:34 AM

Forgive me if i am wrong. You are keeping this at your fathers, which suggests to me that YOU arent going to be there everyday for feeding/maintenance?

If this is the case then will your dad/stepmom feed and maintain whilst you are absent?

GarterPython · 01-04-13, 10:17 AM

Yes I am a member on the chameleon forums. I do not post much but I am on nearly every day.

Jendee · 01-04-13, 10:19 AM

a boa

if you have the room if not get a Mexican boa lol

GarterPython · 01-04-13, 11:01 AM

He said no snakes...or am I confusing this with another thread?

snakekid6996 · 01-04-13, 11:59 AM

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a boa if you have the room if not get a Mexican boa lol

I have a bci at my moms c:, but like grterpython said no snakes allowed at dads :c.

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And no thy need to be screen... Yes humidity can be a problem with some of them especially if you are in a really dry area but your chameleon will not thrive if it does not have high ventilation which is achieved by getting a screen enclosure

If I got a chameleon I would get a 24X24X48 or bigger mesh enclosure and hook up the monsoon rainfall system to it for humidity and drinking (they drink droplets off leaves)