my lavendar cornsnake starved himself to death - Page 3

infernalis · 11-04-12, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

I dont remember who the breeder was. The Tinley Park show was so big and there was a lot of people there including all the vendors. There was so much going on there. When we saw that little Lavender there and when I saw Rmf's excitement at finally seeing an available Lavender, I decided to get it for her.

Bingo..... If I had no conscience, shows would be exactly where I would pedal my non feeding neonates.

Don't hang up a banner, don't pass out business cards, just sell them and run for the hills.

exwizard · 11-04-12, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

My question is:
If you bought this thing at an expo, and it WASN'T an established eater, wouldn't you be able to tell?

I mean if it weren't eating with the same consistency as the other neonates, wouldn't it be smaller? Look more sickly?

And if the snake was very young (For example I bought my GTP 4 weeks after she hatched therefore I sort of knew the risk of her not being established) I would have suggested NOT buying it in favour or heartier looking specimens since corns are a dime-o-dozen.

It doesn't matter anymore. It is what it is and people will have the same opinions about what happened no matter how many times it's been explained, especially since it's all after the fact and nothing can bring Jupiter back. All this harping on Rmf has done nothing but make Rmf feel bad as if she doesn't already. She's been wanting a Lavender for a long time and she's still grieving over the loss of this one.

rmfsnakes32 · 11-04-12, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

it doesn't matter anymore. It is what it is and people will have the same opinions about what happened no matter how many times it's been explained, especially since it's all after the fact and nothing can bring jupiter back. All this harping on rmf has done nothing but make rmf feel bad as if she doesn't already. She's been wanting a lavender for a long time and she's still grieving over the loss of this one.

thank you!

EmbraceCalamity · 11-04-12, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

It doesn't matter anymore. It is what it is and people will have the same opinions about what happened no matter how many times it's been explained, especially since it's all after the fact and nothing can bring Jupiter back. All this harping on Rmf has done nothing but make Rmf feel bad as if she doesn't already. She's been wanting a Lavender for a long time and she's still grieving over the loss of this one.

In all fairness, if she didn't want people "harping" on her, she shouldn't have posted a thread saying her snake starved to death. She didn't ask for ideas about why it happened or how to prevent it from happening again or what she could have done differently or what she could do now that it has happened. She just posted saying it starved but demanded no nasty remarks on her husbandry. What did she expect? We can safely assume she was just looking for sympathy, but if she really expected all she'd get was "Awww, I'm so sorry1111," then she's never be on the internet before. In short, by posting that her snake starved to death and not asking for any actual advice, she brought the harping on herself.

~Maggot

exwizard · 11-04-12, 02:49 PM

I think you guys enjoy it because it makes you all feel good. The wolf pack continues to shred this dead horse to pieces.

Lankyrob · 11-04-12, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

In all fairness, if she didn't want people "harping" on her, she shouldn't have posted a thread saying her snake starved to death. She didn't ask for ideas about why it happened or how to prevent it from happening again or what she could have done differently or what she could do now that it has happened. She just posted saying it starved but demanded no nasty remarks on her husbandry. What did she expect? We can safely assume she was just looking for sympathy, but if she really expected all she'd get was "Awww, I'm so sorry1111," then she's never be on the internet before. In short, by posting that her snake starved to death and not asking for any actual advice, she brought the harping on herself.

~Maggot

This pretty much hits the nail on the head for me

Revenant · 11-04-12, 04:13 PM

In the future, make sure you ask for a receipt at shows. It can get confusing when you've browsed all over and seen a hundred small names you don't know well. Always ask for a receipt with a name and some contact info. It can help a lot if you have some trouble with a show snake, want to keep track of your genetics, or get really lucky with a small timer and want to throw them some more business later.

exwizard · 11-04-12, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Revenant

In the future, make sure you ask for a receipt at shows. It can get confusing when you've browsed all over and seen a hundred small names you don't know well. Always ask for a receipt with a name and some contact info. It can help a lot if you have some trouble with a show snake, want to keep track of your genetics, or get really lucky with a small timer and want to throw them some more business later.

You're exactly right and this is what we plan on next time and any other subsequent time. Thank you. This piece of advice is actually constructive.

shaunyboy · 11-04-12, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

In all fairness, if she didn't want people "harping" on her, she shouldn't have posted a thread saying her snake starved to death. She didn't ask for ideas about why it happened or how to prevent it from happening again or what she could have done differently or what she could do now that it has happened. She just posted saying it starved but demanded no nasty remarks on her husbandry. What did she expect? We can safely assume she was just looking for sympathy, but if she really expected all she'd get was "Awww, I'm so sorry1111," then she's never be on the internet before. In short, by posting that her snake starved to death and not asking for any actual advice, she brought the harping on herself.

~Maggot

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

This pretty much hits the nail on the head for me

to be fair she may not have asked for ideas on why it happened,or how to prevent it in the future

but by posting what happened...

ANSWERS have been posted in this thread

IMO we learn just as much,if not MORE from our mistakes..

imo its vital people share mistakes,so everyone can learn..

people won't share their mistakes,if all they can expect is...........

to get torn a new arse...!!

im not being cheeky

cheers shaun

bushsnake · 11-04-12, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

Bingo..... If I had no conscience, shows would be exactly where I would pedal my non feeding neonates.

Don't hang up a banner, don't pass out business cards, just sell them and run for the hills.

I know many people that vend at Tinley its the kind of show where people bust out theyre best stuff and that goes for pretty much everyone

rmfsnakes32 · 11-04-12, 04:44 PM

The snake was taken to the vet and checked for patasites and other thinhs that could cause refusal to eat my vets conclusion was that it was not an established feeder before sold I tried feeding every 7 days! Tried a paper sack with pinky in it ,leaving it overnight it was not until the vet recomended assit feeding did I even bother trying it. The carcass is being taken in on monday to determine definitive cause of death! So before assuming I didnt ask for help by coming on here to get picked on I went to a proffesional and paid for the services!

**Aaron_S** · 11-04-12, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

Hindsight is 20/20...

This piece of garbage is no reason or excuse to NOT properly think ahead. "Hey, we don't touch snakes for hours after eating but it's OKAY to take a drive across town after a stress force/assist feeding."

Gotcha.

You're the last person I would ever ask for advice.

For more advice, RMF, even though you want a lavender get some big girl panties on and research where to find one. I'm POSITIVE I can find you 3 that can be shipped to you for cheap.

Oh, I'm sorry, I bet you want the dirt cheap ones at shows.

In case you need "Jupiter 2" here are some links...

Corn Snakes – BHB Reptiles

Lavender Corn Snake (Baby) For Sale Online, Buy Now With UPS Overnight Shipping

Kingsnake.com Classifieds > Corn Snake Classifieds

There's four at the bottom of BHB's page of various combos.
The Bell's have one on sale for 39.99!
The last is a list from kingsnake...searching purely for lavenders. You didn't have to wait so long and then lose so much by getting the one from the show.