Breeding yellow anacondas - Page 3

**lady_bug87** · 04-13-12, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KKgal

Honestly, if i was the OP of this thread, and saw the responses of a few of the more seasoned keepers here, i would abandon this thread, and honestly this site, and look elsewhere for constructive, informative information and advice. Being blunt and honest is fine, but what does all the personal information being slung about here have anything to do with breeding yellow anacondas?????

So i am going to be blunt and honest with a few of you, and say i am disgusted at the behavior being shown here, you are adults, and this thread should be locked, or at least all the mudslinging comments be deleted from this thread. Wayne, feel free to delete this comment if you need to.

You're totally right. I apologize. These hormones get the better of me some days

Terranaut · 04-13-12, 02:00 PM

Funny I read this a couple days ago and thought the op was a joke. But now I see it went to 3 pages and half of it is off topic drama. The op is serious and I see where they are coming from. My $.02 is to buy them and raise them an decide 2 yrs from now if your going to breed them. Taking eggs from a tired 7.5ft JCP was a hair raising experience. Trying to remove young from a full grown annie sounds a little out of my league at this time. Maybe the same for you. So yeah. Buy em. Raise em. Then make your decision based on your knowledge, not ours.

marvelfreak · 04-13-12, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Funny I read this a couple days ago and thought the op was a joke. But now I see it went to 3 pages and half of it is off topic drama. The op is serious and I see where they are coming from. My $.02 is to buy them and raise them an decide 2 yrs from now if your going to breed them. Taking eggs from a tired 7.5ft JCP was a hair raising experience. Trying to remove young from a full grown annie sounds a little out of my league at this time. Maybe the same for you. So yeah. Buy em. Raise em. Then make your decision based on your knowledge, not ours.

I so agree. Being he has experience with Boas all he wanting to do is work with a different kind of boas. Yellows would be the next step up. I know i had a one time thought about breeding them, but as i study and ask question i decided against doing it.

OP if you don't want to post on this thread anymore , but have question feel free to PM me. I will do my best to answer them.

I also like to say i so agree with KKgal.

Shrp Blunt · 04-13-12, 11:54 PM

Hey guys,

I see the point you have about 2. So I am not getting them. I will get 1 at a later stage. Thanks to those of you that were supportive.

Caylan · 04-14-12, 02:04 AM

Pretty cool result from a very odd thread. Good luck with your future annie. Post pictures when you get her!

Gungirl · 04-14-12, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrp Blunt

Hey guys,

I see the point you have about 2. So I am not getting them. I will get 1 at a later stage. Thanks to those of you that were supportive.

I am happy that you could read through the crap and get the right info. I think waiting it out until you know more is a great idea.

marvelfreak · 04-14-12, 06:14 AM

And please don't let this scare you off. We do actually have some very helpful people here. I am sure your just as passionate about animals as we all are, and don't want to see some poor animal suffer. Their hearts are in the right place, but some lack bedside manners. Plus i am sure with your experience with boa you could be helpful to others. So please hang around.

As for this thread it has left a bad taste in my mouth. I have a question for you all if he (op) had made the first post, but say he was asked about king snakes or ball pythons would you have be so gun ho to tell he not to?
All he came here for was to learn about them before deciding to get them or not. Maybe some need to slow down when reading or read somethings twice before responding. I think most of you were against because he asked about Yellow Anacondas.

Has for the second page of these thread i think you all need to go put your nose in the corner and take a 15 minute time out.

Lankyrob · 04-14-12, 07:44 AM

My response would have been the same whatever snakes he was talking about - mainly because we have no previous knowledge of his experience. As i said later in the thread (which may have got lost in the pathetic nonsense) if more info was given about his history then i would have responded differently.

**millertime89** · 04-14-12, 10:11 AM

To the OP. Start with one, get a female, they take longer to sexually mature. Then in a year, if you STILL want to breed and you've gained TONS of knowledge and a year's experience with the species go buy yourself a male. Breeding is a HUGE commitment, not only do you have to provide for the safety and well being for the breeding pair, you've got to know what to do with the babies when they hatch. But I'm sure you know that since you've already bred red tails. I really don't see why everyone jumped on you other than the fact you didn't really provide a whole lot of info in your first post.

I do think learning as they grow with big snakes is the way to go. Better that way then to just go out and buy a 15 foot snake.

I completely agree with Chuck, this thread got out of hand. The Jerry Springer stuff needs to be deleted and confined to the privacy of your homes or PMs.

marvelfreak · 04-15-12, 07:50 AM

Well by some of the PM i got i must have pissed a few of you off. My post was not directed at any one person i was talking in general.

People come here for help and advice. But as soon as a newbie mentions one of the big boys (Retic, Burmese, Scrubs, or Anaconda) everyone want to cram their opinion down their throat. If we scare people off with how we respond to a question, then they are more likely to go and make dumb misinform decision. Which just means some poor animal will suffer. The last thing any of us want is for some poor animal to be mistreated and not care for properly. So let's try giving helpful inform advice, and lets ask question to make sure we have all the facts first.

Terranaut · 04-15-12, 10:18 AM

You got pmed for having common sense. Funny!
This thread went way off right away and yes it is because the masses care a lot about both snakes and their handlers safety but then "off topic drama" crept in to where it had no place. That IMHO will scare people off faster than strong worded advice. I just hope another future yellow anaconda owner doesn't read this from a google search and get turned off our forum.

To the op. glad you now have a game plan. Don't be discouraged. This is a great forum.

**millertime89** · 04-15-12, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

To the op. glad you now have a game plan. Don't be discouraged. This is a great forum.

Yup yup yup

exwizard · 04-15-12, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Well by some of the PM i got i must have pissed a few of you off. My post was not directed at any one person i was talking in general.

People come here for help and advice. But as soon as a newbie mentions one of the big boys (Retic, Burmese, Scrubs, or Anaconda) everyone want to cram their opinion down their throat. If we scare people off with how we respond to a question, then they are more likely to go and make dumb misinform decision. Which just means some poor animal will suffer. The last thing any of us want is for some poor animal to be mistreated and not care for properly. So let's try giving helpful inform advice, and lets ask question to make sure we have all the facts first.

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

You got pmed for having common sense. Funny!
This thread went way off right away and yes it is because the masses care a lot about both snakes and their handlers safety but then "off topic drama" crept in to where it had no place. That IMHO will scare people off faster than strong worded advice. I just hope another future yellow anaconda owner doesn't read this from a google search and get turned off our forum.

To the op. glad you now have a game plan. Don't be discouraged. This is a great forum.

This is what Ive said repeatedly when other threads turned ugly like this. How are we going to help people who have questions when we scare them off by judgement and jumping to conclusions?

moshirimon · 05-05-12, 09:55 PM

Having just boas is quite different from caring for anacondas. Although they are closely related they have completely different personalities. yelllows do get big but not that big, probably the same size as a big female boa ( a bit bigger ). There is a chance you will get an animal that will go off feed for long periods of time, and have a crazy attitude. either way do alot of research, i don't know about breeding but care is definitely alot more to maintain than a boa. i got mine this year and i love having her. i was lucky enough to get one with a good temperment andd awesome feeding response. the only downside i'd say is their stench. they reek, if you don't clean the tank and defacate small amounts all around their enclosure almost every other day. also i'd recommend keeping a waterdish they can fit in, which means they wil spend most of their time in there. would you be comfortable taking a soaking wet 9-12 foot snake out for handling. it's up to you just know what youre doing and if you get one, post some pics!!!

jaleely · 05-05-12, 10:37 PM

Lankyrob had the best posts.
Straightforward.
I would suggest not getting any species of snake, at all, for the purpose of breeding and selling.
The pet trade is flooded with a lot of popular snakes. It's not needed, and it is certainly not a great means to make money.
For this particular snake asked about...they are large, fiesty, advanced snakes. Two at 18 months old seems fine now...until they are 10...12...16 feet long.
A quick google search will show you they can have a *lot* of eggs.
It's good to ask questions...great to show an interest, honestly. But it's always hard when it comes to animals because many people see them as more than pets, more than just breeding stock.

I encourage anyone looking into owning any pet, to do tons of research on their needs, housing, lifespan, etc. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Anyway, to the origional poster....the way you asked, it seemed like you were set on getting a pair, and breeding them as soon as you could, like it was no big deal.
Sorry people got defensive of the snakes.
There are many, many people who do this exact thing then end up rehoming the snakes later. And with this breed, it is highly likely because they are so much work.

Anyway again...you did get some good basic info for thoughts on the long run. I see that you didn't get the snakes, too.
That may have worked out for the best. If you do decide at a later date to start a breeding project I hope it goes well for you. In the meantime, maybe you can come back here and start some threads on what you've learned about the snakes, and get discussion and feedback on other keepers methods. That would be more effective than asking for a crash course in breeding : )
Peace!