Cornsnake RI - Page 3

mykee · 03-25-12, 09:33 AM

Below is a heartbreaking story posted at Fauna about a girl (Jen Harrison) who got a ball python with a retrovirus from a breeder in Texas. It's a long read but definitely one that all of you (especially Smoges) should be aware of.
The similarities between Jens timelines and deaths and Smoges are eery. And scary.

A synopsis of the full story below:
For those that don't know what happened -- Respiratory Virus in Ball Pythons - FaunaClassifieds

The full story back when it happened:
TW International Wyatt in Texas - FaunaClassifieds

Thanks Kat...

Gungirl · 03-25-12, 09:37 AM

I think you forgot the link Mykee...

**Aaron_S** · 03-25-12, 11:47 AM

Mykee, are you suggesting that Shmoges may have this devastating disease in his collection?

I'd be sure to look into that Shmoges! You could be infect others collections if you're not careful!

exwizard · 03-25-12, 12:59 PM

Shmoges, I really am sorry you have to be subjected to this type of abuse from some of the other members here. The discouragement and defeatism thats going on here is both amazing and overwhelming. I for one do not think that youre dealing with some nasty mysterious virus. Idk if youre even reading this thread anymore because of all this abuse but if you are, youre not alone so dont be discouraged. I havent lost faith in you and I know you are trying to do your best in dealing with this and all you asked for was help and all you got was condemnation. Well this condemnation is not from everyone, just a select few. Two in particular who most of the posts they do are of this nature. Anyway, like I suggested last night, take your Snow to a vet, find the problem and if it is an RI, mention amigaicin and see what he says and based on that go with his suggestions.

theapexgerman · 03-25-12, 01:01 PM

Could it not even be an RI it could be something else cause an corn shouldn't get an RI. That's why he needs to go to the vet

Gungirl · 03-25-12, 01:03 PM

That was a very informative read. Thank you for sharing that Mykee...

Exwizard... Mykee and Aaron are offering reasonable and good information and advice. All anyone can do for Shmoges here is "guess" what is going on and why it is happening. Shmoges has lost a few snakes already and there has to be a reason beyond the normal unless he is not caring for his snakes like he states he is. No one wants to be told they need to cull all of their snakes but in all honesty if his collection does have some random virus then that is what NEEDS to be done.

mykee · 03-25-12, 01:28 PM

Or he can continue to listen to all the feelgooders on here (whom all in my opinion have their head up their a$$e$, who all seem to offer no real advice aside from poo pooing on those who do), ignore the real problem like he's been doing, continuing to add new, healthy animals, and continue to watch his animals get sick and die.
Pretty irresponsible, selfish and downright immoral if you ask me.

Gungirl · 03-25-12, 01:29 PM

I have a fear that is what is going to happen..

KORBIN5895 · 03-25-12, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mykee

Or he can continue to listen to all the feelgooders on here (whom all in my opinion have their head up their a$$e$, who all seem to offer no real advice aside from poo pooing on those who do), ignore the real problem like he's been doing, continuing to add new, healthy animals, and continue to watch his animals get sick and die.
Pretty irresponsible, selfish and downright immoral if you ask me.

I poo poo on YOU Mykee!!!!

Bel5191 · 03-25-12, 01:49 PM

Anyone who is a responsible and intelligent human being is capable of learning proper husbandry of an animal (maybe with the exception of hots) IMHO. The only way anyone can learn is through good advice/teaching and experience, although hopefully not at the cost of an animal's life. Telling someone to just give up and that they are a terrible pet owner isn't the right way to go.

Gungirl · 03-25-12, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bel5191

Anyone who is a responsible and intelligent human being is capable of learning proper husbandry of an animal (maybe with the exception of hots) IMHO. The only way anyone can learn is through good advice/teaching and experience, although hopefully not at the cost of an animal's life. Telling someone to just give up and that they are a terrible pet owner isn't the right way to go.

You need to go back and read other threads where some of his snakes have died before you can make a judgement call on this one. You don't know the history of his dead snakes...

exwizard · 03-25-12, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

Exwizard... Mykee and Aaron are offering reasonable and good information and advice.

Kill all his snakes and get out of the hobby is not reasonable advice.

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

All anyone can do for Shmoges here is "guess" what is going on and why it is happening.

Thats exactly whats happening here is a series of guesses without any real facts. Its easy to throw wild accusations and in the end Shmoges gets alienated and unjustly so.

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

No one wants to be told they need to cull all of their snakes but in all honesty if his collection does have some random virus then that is what NEEDS to be done.

I think its funny that in the same breath by the same people accusations are being thrown around the HE is killing his snakes. Its not feelgoodism to offer constructive advice without resorting to judgement, condemnation and holier than thou arrogance. The word "blunt" has been used and frankly thats an understatement and an excuse for this arrogance. Bottom line is that there is a better wqay to offer advice than to condemn and attack but thats just my opinion and I know that that differs from 2 other people's opinions but thats ok because I expect that from them.

CDN_Blood · 03-25-12, 02:05 PM

What's the point in offering advice to a repeat offender who doesn't seem to care enough to learn a single thing from his mistakes? In my opinion, this is the biggest lost cause that this forum has to offer.

mykee · 03-25-12, 02:36 PM

Well said Todd!
I`ve said my piece, now I`ll just sit back and watch all the new threads by the OP come up that additional animals in his collection are sick and dying.
Glad this guy lives nowhere near me so that his infected collection stays the hell away from my clean collection.

exwizard · 03-25-12, 04:12 PM

I see the dogpile and further abuse continues. Im sorry to see this and am very disappointed in us because of it.