Kenyan Sand Boa

[Caylan]

Well if there's so many people doing it, I see no reason for a supposed snake lover to enjoy it as well. But maybe that's just me. I have a hard time culling babies that won't make it, let alone an apex predator like the rattle snake... better way to deal with the situation if there's that many is let them over populate themselves and run out of food... meanwhile teach people how to stay away from rattle snakes, not how to kill them... how many bites happen in culling attempts, where as if that was taboo, then there would likely be a decreased number... I know rattle snakes are bad in certain parts of Arizona and Texas, but there are more then enough idiots dealing with it that we shouldn't have to.
This started out as a kenyan sand boa thread, talk about derailing...

[theapexgerman]

yea but I'm sure the person who started this thread don't mind and they do try to teach people but hardly none listen I love animals but not more over the life of a littl kid I was a littl kid when I got bit and I was in the bathroom I hunt a lot. I go up north to hunt deer and stuff I don't got a problem with it but then again it never bother me when I saw a animal die I feel sorry that person but I just don't got to much feelings maybe it was the way I was brought up

[Caylan]

Hunting deer for food, is far different then hunting snakes for jewellery I think. Of course we are both different people but I thought we would at least have that in common, but I guess not. I don't go taking vengeance on animals that bit me because when they bit me it was my fault. I entered it's territory and put my hands where they shouldn't be. Not to mention the fact that it seems really mental... I would hate to see a little kid die from a rattle snake bite myself, but its a statistic. It happens, everyone dies from something. I just don't see why snakes of any type to need to die for this reason. I have to cull rats for food, and I'm not a vegetarian, but it still bothers me when animals die. I'll leave though, should have taken my own advice and not posted on what doesn't concern me, sorry if I upset you.

[theapexgerman]

I don't get upset just caise some one doesn't agree with me we have diff views doesn't mean that ill get up set bout every one is different and it was my house so my territory so the snake treaspass my dad house but I don't go out looking in the desert to kill I did it when there in people houses and stuff but I don't mean to offend any one that's just me and I think wearinf rattle snake fangs is stupid I was just telling of what I've seen

[Caylan]

That's fair, I guess I took it more offensively then it was being portrayed, I was just blinded by the fact snakes are being culled... Personally I'm all about relocation, I've relocated many snakes away from other peoples homes, as well as around 50 garters from my own back yard... Snakes don't understand the term house, so to him that was his shelter that he found, and he was protecting it. Same goes for all rattlers I'd think. They aren't trying to take over anyone's place, they just want shelter. If they knew humans lived there at the time, they wouldn't have bothered likely. I understand rattle snake culling is big in those few states, but we as snake keepers can go with other means of removing snakes, and we should definitely practice that more often, and preach it whenever we can. I just would hate to see someone take advantage of the knowledge we have, just to make a few extra bucks in the summer killing rattlers... We'd be better at it then anyone else really, but we need to stay away from that side of things, or next thing you know we're breeding ball pythons for their skins.... I won't let that happen. Sorry I assumed I upset you, I just usually do lol.

[theapexgerman]

Not a problem yea killing other snakes for there skins is wrong when I was in high school I went to senior people living places that's were I made money at the time it was good summer job doing a good thing to help some one out but why let the rattle snake go to waste I love there meat and I guess people like there fangs and stuff but now if people was killing snakes just cause of there skin it would make me mad texas I belive is worst than arizona and that's pretty bad they got another kind of diamond back there that's more deadly thaan the one here now that's scasry

[Caylan]

I see no reason to kill a snake for its meat either, they don't have much on them... But at least if your going to kill it you are eating it, I respect that. Using the fangs and skin afterwards is also respectable in a way, but really I prefer they were never touched by humans... Its not like we have to kill them, we just don't know how to deal with them so that's the easiest way to do it... Natives who hunt and use the entire body are at least hunting because they have too, and they still use more of the body when we do. I have the same problem with kangaroos in Australia, but they would literally starve themselves to death if they weren't regulated and culled the way they are. I just hate seeing any animal culled I guess, especially when theres money to be made from it...

[theapexgerman]

Yea rattle snake has like no meat but if get a few enough for a snack deep fry it or cook it over a open flame with some spices its really good and I don't get the fang thing but I see a lot of peoples wearing them here I guess its a new style or something I'm at wwork at the moment and I already see 4 rattle snake with in 10 minutes I'm on my cell phone my laptop broke so been on my phoen all of the time

[Caylan]

Yeah to me rattle snakes shouldn't be a snack.....

[theapexgerman]

There's a restruant close to me that has a rattle snake dish its like 40 bucks I could get one in my house for free and its a fairly order dish but I had notice in the past few years the number has been decreasing of rattle snakes in my house witch is good less of a problem for me

[Caylan]

I guess with me not actually dealing with any snake species that abundent, let alone a venomous species, I have a bit of a skewed vision as to what actually goes on over there. I know you'd be more sympathetic to the snakes then most people at least, I should just accept that and move on. But as much as I would love to try snake, I would never kill my own unless I was surviving...

[theapexgerman]

Yea I don't get why pepole are buying a 40 buck dish wtf and there's like suck little food on the dish but in the past years I've been catching most of the rattle snakes in my house and letting them go far away but I nearly got bite a few times doing it and I got lots of pratice catching and realsing rattle snakes

[Caylan]

Yes I'm sure my approach would end up in a lot more bites per year, but if there could be a group of people willing to catch and release rattlers from other peoples homes, it could be a good business and keep the snakes alive... Key is preventing them from coming back into your home afterwards. That is what I'm curious about... if anyone has anything, fabled or true, you guys would know about it. Anything being done or made to help keep rattlers out of homes, without having to even deal with them? A repellent or something? Or does everyone just leave their doors open all day and night... and then kill on sight...

[theapexgerman]

Well in arizona all the citys have a tweak law like I'm in phoenix now mesa a 29 minute drive from me and in mesa one of the city laws says its ilegale to catch and release a native snake and in phoenix they don't care really what you do now in scotsdale witch is were all the rich people live they say only way to get rid of a rattle snake it has to be done in a humane way but you can't catch and release there its a 7000$ fine and up to 60 days in jail its crazy so it depends witch city your in

[Caylan]

Wow.... that's bull. Somebody needs to fight this.... It's not right.