Looking to Breed my Albino Burmese for first time...

[beardeds4life]

Im not against breeding but like someone said before there is no reason to, If your female was a better morph than albino I would say yes just there are to many burs with no where near enough good homes. Did you know that there a burm only rescues opening up? All you will be doing is adding to the problems the reptile community has.

[presspirate]

I have to agree with the above statement. With the recent ban It will be difficult to place the young. I would look at getting a very young one from a breeder asap. And raise him/her from the ground up.

[marvelfreak]

With the Ban on Burmese most pet store won't even touch them.

[KORBIN5895]

Hey Dale. Honestly what everyone has said about too many Burns is true yet so many on her are still breeding rp ( for you Todd! ). I see that as a double standard. If you have a market then go for it! If you only want one breed her and pick the best looking one and euthanize the rest. I know that may not be popular but it is an option.

[Will0W783]

No offense, BurmeseGuy, but you are nowhere near knowledgeable enough to breed. Honestly, you should spend the next few years researching Burmese pythons and breeding them before you even consider it. From the looks of your Burm, she will need two more seasons before she's ready to breed. Female Burms need to be at least ten feet and 40 pounds, or more. My male (10 years old) is 13 feet and 90 pounds, and not at all fat or overweight. He could even be thicker but I hold his weight steady for better health since I don't intend to breed him.
There's a lot more to breeding than just sticking two snakes together. You need a proper incubator and the skills to fix problems that may arise. You need to know how to cool the pair without getting them sick, you need to have a calendar set up and plan to be home for 24-48 hours when she's due to lay the eggs. You have to have experience with tough feeders to get the babies started...: there's a lot to it.
Also both breeding snakes should be healthy for at least a year before you even attempt to cool them.

Take your time, do your research and think hard about whether you're willing to take the risks. There's always a risk of illness or death to the female. It's a big decision. Don't make it lightly.

[Valvaren]

@Korbin : Really, honestly you want him to create a bunch of babies to get something he wants and kill them. Honestly I think that is the most extremely selfish and terrible thing I have heard in a while. These animals aren't just toys are play things but that is all I get out of that statement.

If you truly love these animals and care about them you will buy a baby in need of a home from a breeder instead of adding more to a problem that is sure to increase greatly due to the ban that just past. People really need to start looking past what they want and look at what is best for the animals.

[BurmeseGuy]

Originally Posted by Will0W783

No offense, BurmeseGuy, but you are nowhere near knowledgeable enough to breed. Honestly, you should spend the next few years researching Burmese pythons and breeding them before you even consider it. From the looks of your Burm, she will need two more seasons before she's ready to breed. Female Burms need to be at least ten feet and 40 pounds, or more. My male (10 years old) is 13 feet and 90 pounds, and not at all fat or overweight. He could even be thicker but I hold his weight steady for better health since I don't intend to breed him.
There's a lot more to breeding than just sticking two snakes together. You need a proper incubator and the skills to fix problems that may arise. You need to know how to cool the pair without getting them sick, you need to have a calendar set up and plan to be home for 24-48 hours when she's due to lay the eggs. You have to have experience with tough feeders to get the babies started...: there's a lot to it.
Also both breeding snakes should be healthy for at least a year before you even attempt to cool them.

Take your time, do your research and think hard about whether you're willing to take the risks. There's always a risk of illness or death to the female. It's a big decision. Don't make it lightly.

Kim, no offense but, offense taken, you know nothing about me or my knowledge...sure I don't know jack about genetics but will take any Burmese I simply pointed out what I'd like to have...I do have an incubator set up...my snakes enclosure even now with the 55 on the side has a temperature control unit...she is kept between 88-92 degrees Fahrenheit and her humidity is between 50 and 60% and I know when season starts to come in you raise her temp. to get her ready...I have had Burmese Pythons for the last 25 years so there is one thing I know...Burmese Pythons...I'm new to breeding not the snake...you know nothing about me like I said or my knowledge...and for the record I would never breed and take pick of litter and destroy the rest...sorry it's not in me to do that.

[lady_bug87]

You may have been offended by what Kim said but I hope you read it. I am NOT anti-breeding my lizards breed all the time the eggs are extremely difficult to hatch but I have been trying, in saying that please understand that the health of your animal is paramount.

Just the idea that she's been sick and is thin is reason enough to wait to breed her and selling babies or not breeding is expensive you have to have storage, food, and vet visits for neonates. In my opinion it would be unethical to sell a snake that has not been seen by either a vet or an experienced breeder. Also you may not sell them right away and Burms can lay A LOT of young in a season are you prepared for 20, 30 or 40 neonates?

I would personally NOT breed her at all. Even *if* all the conditions and genetics were in place there is no guarantee that you would get what you are looking for and then what do you do? It may take several generations for what you want to hatch that is a lot of babies. Besides no responsible owner will lend you a male just as your female is coming out of having an RI, I personally think you should wait (as Kim said) at least 2 more seasons to breed I would even agree with the reasons why she suggested you wait.

There are a lot of good points as to not breeding her ultimately its your decision.

[Trent]

Originally Posted by BurmeseGuy

Kim, no offense but, offense taken, you know nothing about me or my knowledge...sure I don't know jack about genetics but will take any Burmese I simply pointed out what I'd like to have...I do have an incubator set up...my snakes enclosure even now with the 55 on the side has a temperature control unit...she is kept between 88-92 degrees Fahrenheit and her humidity is between 50 and 60% and I know when season starts to come in you raise her temp. to get her ready...I have had Burmese Pythons for the last 25 years so there is one thing I know...Burmese Pythons...I'm new to breeding not the snake...you know nothing about me like I said or my knowledge...and for the record I would never breed and take pick of litter and destroy the rest...sorry it's not in me to do that.

Relax mate...she's giving you some good advice.Is she still living in a 55 gallon tank?? Must be a tight fit for a 8 foot burm.Like I said in a earlier post get yourself a baby male that you know the genes of and raise him up.If you really want to have babies.It will give your girl time to get to size and give yourself time to learn more about the breeding side of burms.I agree with you on breeding just for one and killing the rest.Kinda messed up. No offence intended just trying to steer you down the right path.I had several burms for year before they banned them here.So I understand the passion for the big guys

[BurmeseGuy]

Originally Posted by Trent

Relax mate...she's giving you some good advice.Is she still living in a 55 gallon tank?? Must be a tight fit for a 8 foot burm.Like I said in a earlier post get yourself a baby male that you know the genes of and raise him up.If you really want to have babies.It will give your girl time to get to size and give yourself time to learn more about the breeding side of burms.I agree with you on breeding just for one and killing the rest.Kinda messed up. No offence intended just trying to steer you down the right path.I had several burms for year before they banned them here.So I understand the passion for the big guys

Thanks Trent, yes I'm going to buy a baby Burm possibly this weekend...if anyone at the show has a Burm, it's coming home with me...and I do understand the advice...yes unfortunately she is still in the 55 and yes it's a tight squeeze it kills me everyday she is in it...I'm waiting on a 800.00 check and then I am purchasing the rest of the material to finish her 10ft long 2ft tall 3ft wide enclosure...it's actually 4 long enclosures and 2 vertical enclosures all in one unit that is able to be taken apart...I already have the plans drawn out...I want some colored Amazon Tree Boa's well the wife does, she's the Boa enthusiast and I like Burms and Retic's...so to all the people that seem to know me so well...I'm waiting for at least 2 seasons and waiting for the male I purchase to catch up to her...ok end of discussion thanks for all the input and advice

[KORBIN5895]

Lol! I knew that would go over like a lead balloon! Where did I say he should? I just gave the option.

[millertime89]

I would say a 10x2x3 is gonna be too big, even for a full grown female. A 6w x 1.5h x 3d would be ideal IMO.
Make sure if you buy a baby you get an albino or het albino to make sure you get albinos from her clutch. If you can get an albino hypo or hypo het albino you'll get hypos, hypo het albinos, hypo albinos, and normal het albinos, which appeal to a number of different people. Sure the hypo is going to be a bit more expensive, but the return is going to be greater.

[beardeds4life]

i still think it would be highly irresponsible to breed burms I talk to a lot of breeders and ALL of them are maybe breeding one clutch of burms eveyr 3 years.

[Norm66]

FWIW I was at an expo today and the prices on the burms were way down. Full grown snakes going for $200. The ban has destroyed the market.

[millertime89]

I don't think its that down, that's what I've seen full grown normals go for before.