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01-18-12, 06:55 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
Oh, and Orchid is BEAUTIFUL!
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01-19-12, 11:22 AM
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Re: Hybrids?
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Originally Posted by kernel
I'm not big on hybrids, but I'm not against them. Intergrades are completely different though, they CAN happen in the wild, but hybrids CAN'T.
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They can and have - corns, milks and kings natural locations overlap in some places and there are documneted cases of it happening in the wild - not many granted, but they can.
I do not believe that a rosy boa and childrens python have been crossed -( after watching a program where some guys in Utah had put a spider gene in a goat and got web in the milk I realise that there is so many things possible that I would have sworn was impossible), but a hybrid between a rosy boa and a childrens python that occured naturally I don't believe could be possible.
Not all hybrids are infertile either - I have 2 Imperial Pueblans that are from 2 sets of imperial pueblans breeding. They are strong, healthy, fiesty tings too.
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01-19-12, 11:31 AM
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Re: Hybrids?
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Originally Posted by marvelfreak
So one lays eggs and the other has live born?
Todd no problem it happens.
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I have no idea whats up with that snake lol, I showed it to a few biologist friends and we are all stumped, taxonomy says its a milk snake, but the pattern is 100% obviously a water snake, it ONLY eats fish. Its head pattern is also that of a milk snake...
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01-19-12, 12:17 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
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Originally Posted by andybe18
They can and have - corns, milks and kings natural locations overlap in some places and there are documneted cases of it happening in the wild - not many granted, but they can.
I do not believe that a rosy boa and childrens python have been crossed -( after watching a program where some guys in Utah had put a spider gene in a goat and got web in the milk I realise that there is so many things possible that I would have sworn was impossible), but a hybrid between a rosy boa and a childrens python that occured naturally I don't believe could be possible.
Not all hybrids are infertile either - I have 2 Imperial Pueblans that are from 2 sets of imperial pueblans breeding. They are strong, healthy, fiesty tings too.
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So what breeds were crossed?
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01-19-12, 12:42 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
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Originally Posted by shaunyboy
i've heard the purists arguement of.....
its NOT NATURAL,as snakes from a different continents,would never meet in the wild
i think that arguement it utter crap...!!
why.....?
because,its also NOT NATURAL,to keep any reptile in little wooden boxes
so then,should ALL snakes be released into the wild or stop being kept,under the same reason purists say hybrids should not be created.....
that being ITS NOT NATURAL
cheers shaun
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^very well said.
i'm for hybrids as long as beautiful snakes are being produced, the carpondro is an excellent example :
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01-19-12, 01:09 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
wow that's a nice snake
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01-19-12, 01:13 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
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Originally Posted by peterm15
Nice snake but i do not agree with hybrids.
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I agree with this with only one exception. I would love someday to have a wolf dog.
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01-19-12, 01:14 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
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Originally Posted by BimthaS
^very well said.
i'm for hybrids as long as beautiful snakes are being produced, the carpondro is an excellent example :
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and this... Wow!
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01-19-12, 01:15 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
carpondros and bateaters are about the only crosses that I'm ok with that I can think of other than the ones that naturally occur. Integrades I'm also sort of ok with as long as they're correctly labeled.
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01-19-12, 01:25 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
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Originally Posted by exwizard
I agree with this with only one exception. I would love someday to have a wolf dog.
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they got a German Shepherd mix with a timber wolf if that's count's as a wolf dog
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01-19-12, 01:29 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
Yes that does count as a wolf dog but Im thinking something along the lines of a wolf/husky or wolf/malamute. Our neighbor down the street has one and hes beautiful. The cool thing is theyre totally legal here.
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01-19-12, 01:33 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
Ive seen a wolf/saint Bernard before it look kinda funky tho
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01-19-12, 01:34 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
Ive never seen one of those. Thats tough to picture.
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01-19-12, 01:38 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
the owner live like 6 house down from me a few years ago but he move he even had paper work saying it's a wolf/saint Bernard it look like a saint Bernard but instead of fluffy hair it was short hair he was mean tho
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01-19-12, 02:06 PM
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Re: Hybrids?
Our neighbors wolf dog is actually quite nice. It was eerie listening to him howl though.
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