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Old 12-11-11, 02:58 PM   #31
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Re: Nasty snakes?

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but for the fun of having a snake that's a handful.

I think this last part of your question is what has people concerned, myself as well. maybe if you wrote out a more detailed inquiry,giving more examples of what you are looking to get out of by owning a species that may be a lot more challenging in it's temperament, instead of just saying "it's for the fun of having it", than people may be more inclined to be more receptive to your question.

Please try and understand, each and everyone of us on this forum is concerned about how much this hobby has been portrayed in a negative light of late, especially by the media, and we just want to know the reasons you are looking to get into more challenging species is the right one, and not one that could lead to more hardships in keeping reptiles.
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Old 12-11-11, 02:59 PM   #32
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Yes you are correct. We will do our best to answer all questions that are being asked. However we all get concerned for our hobby and the safety of people and animals. Seeing as you are 15 and so curious about hots is a huge concern. I am glad that you are doing research and asking questions but that doesn't change the fact that it still worries us. We do not want to offend you or anything like that.
^^ This

There are people on this forum that keep more aggressive/defensive snakes and hots and the amount of knowledge is incredible. I doubt you are anywhere near experienced enough for a hot, or even enough to think about one. I'm glad you're taking your time in planning and asking questions but make sure whatever snake you get is either too much for you to handle OR an impulse buy which will end in you getting rid of an animal that by obtaining you agreed to care for and be responsible for.
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Re: Nasty snakes?

Maybe if you don't want to keep them, you just want to work with them you could volunteer at a zoo with a reptile house? If you can't work with them that way at least you could be up close with them.
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Old 12-11-11, 03:05 PM   #34
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Re: Nasty snakes?

I meant to say that I want an aggressive snake because I like the idea of the challenge of keeping a snake that's a handful. Of course, I also think it would be a fun and educational experience.
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Old 12-11-11, 03:09 PM   #35
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Re: Nasty snakes?

and what happens when its too much of a handful? when everytime you reach in to clean you get tagged or have to deal with a stressed out animal? or when if they need help shedding you have to take them in your hands and assist while its trying to gnaw your finger off... what then?

my question is what happens when it isnt fun anymore
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Old 12-11-11, 03:14 PM   #36
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Re: Nasty snakes?

many of us have 'handfuls' and the examples I gave may be extreme but its always a possibility.
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Old 12-11-11, 04:50 PM   #37
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Re: Nasty snakes?

@ op. May I ask you what you currently have for pets, and have had in the past!

Personally I realty enjoy my mellow snakes. I have an atb that is very predictable. I take him out and he tries to get away. I retain him. We do this for a couple of minutes then he gets ticked and I spend the rest of the time he is out avoiding his teeth. Personally I really don't enjoy it after the first strike. Too much of a hassle. So after a couple of weeks of doing that daily I realized hmmm he is a pain in the butt. This is the reason my wife doesn't want him in the house. I am current trying to find him a new home and only idiots seem to be interested in him. So where does that leave me? I will tell you. I have a very disgruntled wife. Now my hands are full with a snakke and my wife. It's not a pretty place to be. Get a mellow snake and enjoy it. Ask Wayne he has a large collection of mellow snakes. Maybe a few aren't but most of the are and he has a blast!
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Old 12-11-11, 06:52 PM   #38
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Re: Nasty snakes?

^^ Hey I am not an idiot and I am interested.... :P but I'm not sure on the shipping there is a red phase hatchling at my supplier that I may pick up
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Old 12-11-11, 08:05 PM   #39
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Re: Nasty snakes?

Geeze, maybe we should be concerned about me, I simply adore feisty snakes.

My all time favourite snake I ever had was a mean bitch I named "Dorothy" after my old lady, that snake would leap into the air just to get a bite of flesh.

I'm sorry and I don't mean to come off wrong, but to me, snakes are not cuddly little pets, I don't handle my snakes, I observe them.

To each his own, but docile "cuddly" snakes bore the daylights out of me.

If I want to watch TV with an animal on my lap, I will pick up one of the dogs, or my cat.
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Re: Nasty snakes?

there is a difference between you who is not only an extremely knowledgeable but incredibly responsible and respectful pet owner and reptile keeper

and a 15yr old who want a snake thats a 'handful' because its fun and he wants poisonous snakes for all we know he wants them so he can say to his peers.." hey come see my bada** snake" then he or someone else gets bit and there's more bad press which esp in the states is really not needed
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Old 12-11-11, 08:14 PM   #41
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Geeze, maybe we should be concerned about me, I simply adore feisty snakes.

My all time favourite snake I ever had was a mean bitch I named "Dorothy" after my old lady, that snake would leap into the air just to get a bite of flesh.

I'm sorry and I don't mean to come off wrong, but to me, snakes are not cuddly little pets, I don't handle my snakes, I observe them.

To each his own, but docile "cuddly" snakes bore the daylights out of me.

If I want to watch TV with an animal on my lap, I will pick up one of the dogs, or my cat.
Not just you mate... I don't "tame" down snakes either. If they get used to me great if they don't... it don't bother me either but I've never "tamed" one down.
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^^^Venomous, not "poisonous"
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Re: Nasty snakes?

I dont tame mine down and I'm not saying he shouldnt do it, what I am saying is that he should do it for the right reasons not because he THINKS it will be fun
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Re: Nasty snakes?

boosh96, what is your current exprience level with snakes? What do you currently own, and what have you owned in the past, and for how long?
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Black Racer hands down, they bite, musk and almost never calm down.
I agree, I have tried to keep one wild caught and they are fiesty! They don't calm down after feedings either, or while handling. I only kept him for a couple weeks though so I don't know about long term, but I figured he would be happier out in the woods in my back yard
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