New Bullsnake + Corn and Ball Feeding Video - Page 3

Terranaut · 10-06-11, 01:33 PM

You are all getting a bit outa hand here. Realize the people on here just want whats best for your snake and all their comments start from that point. Pre killed or f/t is best for your snake. Nothing good other than the show comes from live feeding. But thats enough discussion. Now you know and maybe everyone can let it be. I know I'm new here but had to comment.

Gungirl · 10-06-11, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RegenerationRep

So forget about it. Don't preach somebody who doesn't want to be preached at. Please.

Don't expect us to sit back and keep our fingers from typing. This forum is very much about discussing what we see and why we think the way we do. I really hope your snake doesn't get bitten. Thats all we care about.

redsided · 10-06-11, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RegenerationRep

. I'm 15 and I learn by trial and error.

I'm 15 and would never put my snakes at risk. I don't know about you, but I care if my snakes get hurt.

Trial and error and snakes don't mix. To think like that is stupid. You can't expect people on a snake forum, as passionate about snakes as they are, to just say "whatever. Keep you snakes poorly. Who gives a damn if they die." Why risk vet bills if you can't afford rats?

When you buy a snake you gotta be willing to keep them well, safe, and out of harms way, even if that means spending more money. If you can't house your snakes right, you shouldn't be keeping them. Now, I don't think that you feeding live mice makes you incapable of keeping snakes or that you shouldnt, but when you know that it's not safe, that's differet than doing something wrong without knowing.

Of course they eat live in the wild. They don't have a choice. Does that mean they don't get hurt? Hell no. Garter snakes eat parasite-loaded frogs, fish, and drink toxicated water -- does that mean I'll feed those to my baby garters?HELL. NO.

I do hear where you're coming from, snakes are capable -- theyve been around forever, they are capable.. But guess what? SO HAVE RATS.

You asked about it on Facebook... What do they know? You're gonna rely on a bunch of clueless, know-it-all fools on Facebook? Those losers who have to give their "friends" that their in the bathroom? Those are the guys who insist brown snakes from Maryland are checkered garter snakes. If they told you it was perfectly fine to keep them at 200 degrees, with a basking spot of 400 would you do it?

I don't think you would. You're capable and snake smart.

But you're being stupid.

You're putting your snakes health and possibly life at risk for what -- the fun of the chase? You'll be spending a lot more money at the vet then you would switching foods.

Ive never had problems using two-sided tape to stick my thermometers to the glass. But the day I heard there's a RISK of injury and death, I took them down that day. I still haven't been able to find a good way without gluing them, rendering them almost useless for a month, but I refuse to put tape in my cage if it puts my snakes at risk.

You say "snakes that get bit back are already unhealthy" That's just dumb. Cause it's not true and you know it.

You refer to your age as if that exuses it -- makes you less able.

Doesn't make sense.

RegenerationRep · 10-06-11, 04:12 PM

I honestly don't care if I get kicked off the forums anymore.

Lankyrob · 10-06-11, 04:17 PM

If you have to resort to swearing and being abusive to people then it proves you have lost your argument, if you want to continue then put forward YOUR argument for feeding live ina clear and concise way without being abusive and people will respond in a similar way.

A forum is all about discussion but as soon as you start being abusive then discussions end and you get banned.

RegenerationRep · 10-06-11, 04:24 PM

I'm just so sick of being harassed by you guys. Get over it.

Lankyrob · 10-06-11, 04:28 PM

There is a big difference between harassment and discussion, we are putting forward clearly worded factual points as to why live feeding is undesirable and you are not answering our points or putting forward your own reasons for what you have decided to do.

As i said before forums are for discussion, if you post something then others WILL respond to it, some calmly some more assertively but the discussion will happen.

infernalis · 10-06-11, 07:07 PM

OK.. wording is everything.

We do in fact have several experienced keepers who feed live, Supervised of course.

Tyler, No one wants to kick you off the forum.. Just be open to mixed opinions.. Not everyone sees the world through the same eyes.

Just a quick story, and I have video to prove it..

I got my adult Pueblan milk several years ago, I picked up several live mice for him to eat and brought him home.

Once I got a nice big cage built, I put one of the mice in there with him.

He pursued the mouse, he coiled around it, and the mouse fought back, my snake suffered some nasty face wounds, and then refused to eat for several months after that.

Long story short, Most experienced keepers who feed live will knock the mouse over the head first, so the mouse is either already dead, or just barely alive.

There is no reason for ANYONE to get hostile over the subject.

So can we please just move forward in a nice orderly fashion.

Banning Tyler will not help him, and since he has expressed a desire to dive into this hobby fully and breed, it's not going to solve anything pushing him away.

redsided · 10-06-11, 08:28 PM

Sorry for being harsh dude. Never wanted you off the forum. Just got a little ticked the way you shrugged it off and made accusations. We just wanted you aware of the dangers and to keep your animals safe.

No hard feelings

ZARADOZIA · 10-07-11, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by redsided

Sorry for being harsh dude. Never wanted you off the forum. Just got a little ticked the way you shrugged it off and made accusations. We just wanted you aware of the dangers and to keep your animals safe.

No hard feelings

I Like You!

ZARADOZIA · 10-07-11, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RegenerationRep

I'm just so sick of being harassed by you guys. Get over it.

I am sorry we made you feel that way. Like Wayne said, we don't want you to leave and I know some opinions were strongly stated; we just want to help you take care of your snakes. We don't mean to upset you; just want you to acknowledge the possibilities of danger and prepare for them. That's all.

Our intentions are not to be mean to you or bully you, but help you be a better, safer, more knowledgable handler and future breeder.

I have always found it safer to learn from other's mistakes if possible rather than make them myself because it is less costly or painful. And sadly, I didn't figure that out until I was an adult.

RegenerationRep · 10-07-11, 04:48 AM

I should apologize too, I shouldn't have acted like that. I do know the dangers of feeding live, and I honestly don't usually do it. Normally I put all the mice in a snake bag and wack em lol