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06-09-11, 02:19 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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I think its time we stop complaining and appreciate the fact that hes attempting to educate himself. Lets just cool it and hope this doesn't happen again.
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Im all for Stephan's idea
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06-09-11, 02:21 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
yh same here
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06-09-11, 03:53 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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You dont really have any feeling with a Maylayan you just start dying
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lol I like this reply!
An adder is as bad as it gets here and it doesn't count for much, experience wise, compared to wild snakes in the rest of the world
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06-09-11, 04:44 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by stephanbakir
Poison is Ingested, venom is Injected.
There is nothing wrong with killing something in self defence or to defend others. We weren't told the story behind why he killed the animal, for all we know the snake was going towards a newborn baby... I doubt that's the case but we cant judge without knowing.
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yes killing something in self defence is ok. are you implying he was in danger and defending himself from this snake? I think not.
he wont be back anyway, hes not going to learn anything.
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06-09-11, 04:53 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
Lets say you are confronted by an unknown snake that is obviously aggressive and you cant identify it, yourself and possibly others could quite possibly be in danger, you don't have the skills or materials to relocate it without amplifying the situation. Your options are
A: try and remove the snake and put yourself and possibly others at risk because you have no idea what your doing
B: remove the threat and save your family from a potential hardship
I would choose option B every single time. I do my best to educate myself when it comes to any potential threats in an area I plan to visit and this is where I believe the OP was lacking. Did he do the wrong thing by killing a harmless snake? Normally I'd say yes but if it was to defend his family I understand his POV. After reading the 3 pages on this post, I sincerely hope he sifts through the complaints and finds the valuable information given, educates himself and his friends/family so it doesn't reoccur and quite possibly invests 30$ in a snake hook so that if he is ever confronted by a potentially venomous herp he can ease it away from family so they can get to safety and call animal control without needing to kill the animal.
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06-09-11, 05:43 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by sassy_snake_lady
lol I like this reply!
An adder is as bad as it gets here and it doesn't count for much, experience wise, compared to wild snakes in the rest of the world
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this is quite right, but an adder is still an adder, even though its not much of a bite, any experience with wild and aggressive snakes is still valuable experience, and as i have this experience, i would sooner try my best to relocate an animal (even if it means putting myself in danger) than kill it.
basically, every experience, no matter how big or small it is, is still a valuable lesson and very valuable experience to be had
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06-09-11, 08:58 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
took the words outta my mouth
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You take a damn picture, or save the snake to memory, you DON'T need to kill it. If you see a snake and know it to be dangerous, or are in imminent danger, its best to go around it and call animal control.
There are only 2 snakes in the world that come to mind that will actively chase you down and they live in africa and india...
Make the investment of 20 minutes and look up the snakes in your area and educate your friends and family so this doesn't happen in the future.
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06-10-11, 11:33 AM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by Nos
this is what is wrong with people. there first reaction is to kill the unknown to protect them selfs, when the snake is the only thing in any danger.
sad how uneducated people are about the world with so much widely available information.
I like how he asked if it was poisonous or not, implying he might go after the other one like we should kill off all the poisonous snakes.
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I am female, not male and frankly, snakes scare the **** out of me. I'm sorry that killing that snake made you upset but I had more important things on my mind. I didn't have the time to go into my house and research online what kind it was. It was there, near me and my family and I'm sorry, but instinct says protect. Any wild animal would do the same. Why am I not allowed to do it as well? I wanted to find out what kind it was, my question has been answered, so there is no reason to keep posting and berating me for doing something that the majority of humans would do. I didn't kill it for fun, my first thoughts were to protect. I wasn't looking for it in hopes to be able to kill something. I saw it and it happened.
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06-10-11, 11:39 AM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by ilovemypets1988
i would sooner try my best to relocate an animal (even if it means putting myself in danger) than kill it.
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You wouldn't be in danger, it's an adder lol
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06-10-11, 11:40 AM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by sassy_snake_lady
lol I like this reply!
An adder is as bad as it gets here and it doesn't count for much, experience wise, compared to wild snakes in the rest of the world
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Held an adder once , it was cool
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06-10-11, 11:41 AM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by Tang
I am female, not male and frankly, snakes scare the **** out of me. I'm sorry that killing that snake made you upset but I had more important things on my mind. I didn't have the time to go into my house and research online what kind it was. It was there, near me and my family and I'm sorry, but instinct says protect. Any wild animal would do the same. Why am I not allowed to do it as well? I wanted to find out what kind it was, my question has been answered, so there is no reason to keep posting and berating me for doing something that the majority of humans would do. I didn't kill it for fun, my first thoughts were to protect. I wasn't looking for it in hopes to be able to kill something. I saw it and it happened.
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humans aren't driven by pure wild instinct. if i were you i'd go through a list of all the animals in your large scale area and see what's actually dangerous so you know later in life. i'm not sure where the snake actually was, but i bet you could have not killed it and everything would have been just the same.
i'm not even mad and i didn't post once on this whole thread, but you are not a wild animal and can control yourself. If it was me, i'd have moved the children and not killed anything, but to each his own (or her own)
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06-10-11, 11:41 AM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by Tang
I am female, not male and frankly, snakes scare the **** out of me. I'm sorry that killing that snake made you upset but I had more important things on my mind. I didn't have the time to go into my house and research online what kind it was. It was there, near me and my family and I'm sorry, but instinct says protect. Any wild animal would do the same. Why am I not allowed to do it as well? I wanted to find out what kind it was, my question has been answered, so there is no reason to keep posting and berating me for doing something that the majority of humans would do. I didn't kill it for fun, my first thoughts were to protect. I wasn't looking for it in hopes to be able to kill something. I saw it and it happened.
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Totally see where your comming from and in your situation I'm pretty sure I would have done the same.
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06-10-11, 12:12 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by sassy_snake_lady
You wouldn't be in danger, it's an adder lol
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i would do it whether its an adder, cobra, viper or any other snake, they dont scare me, i respect them enough to know what can happen but thats besides the point, i would still try to relocate before kill no matter how dangerous the snake is
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06-10-11, 12:18 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by Tang
I am female, not male and frankly, snakes scare the **** out of me. I'm sorry that killing that snake made you upset but I had more important things on my mind. I didn't have the time to go into my house and research online what kind it was. It was there, near me and my family and I'm sorry, but instinct says protect. Any wild animal would do the same. Why am I not allowed to do it as well? I wanted to find out what kind it was, my question has been answered, so there is no reason to keep posting and berating me for doing something that the majority of humans would do. I didn't kill it for fun, my first thoughts were to protect. I wasn't looking for it in hopes to be able to kill something. I saw it and it happened.
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Whilst there are situations where it is impossible to move away from the snake, and therefore some sort of confrontation is inevitable, you havent explained in any way why you couldnt do this rather than kill the animal. As T said we are NOT wild animals that have no capacity for thought and consideration before taking action - personally in 99.9% of situations i would move myself and my family rather than harm any animal.
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06-10-11, 12:27 PM
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Re: What kind of snake is this?
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Originally Posted by ilovemypets1988
i would do it whether its an adder, cobra, viper or any other snake, they dont scare me, i respect them enough to know what can happen but thats besides the point, i would still try to relocate before kill no matter how dangerous the snake is
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Sorry but that's rubbish, it's not about scaring you or how brave you are, it's the situation. Until you are in that situation you don't know how you would react.
For example, if I noticed a dangerous snake close to my child, I would rather kill that snake that put my child in danger by trying to move the snake and relocate it.
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