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Old 04-14-11, 06:33 AM   #31
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ok thx guys. the first time it took a day to go back...now it hasn't gone back in a few days. i will get it looked at as soon as possible.

imo its a complete prolapse and you need to keep it moist until the vet treats it

mix some sugar with water and keep the paper towel substrate wet so it keeps the prolapse moist

your vet may be able to manipulate it back in and pop a few stitches in to keep it in place

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This folks is a perfect example of why it is frowned upon to offer advice to people with PM messages! Imagine if this conversation was not open to "public scrutinizing by the community" the original poster could have very well been given bad info by anyone including mykee or myself!

Read this whole thread, we all had a snake owner with a perfectly normal animal worried about something that happens every day.
all i can say on the above is if someones offering advice via pm they should be 100% on the advice they are giving if they have not dealt with the problem hands on themselves or are unsure in any way then advice should NOT be given out

i have personally helped a few folk out via pm and i'm happy to say all the snakes made a complete recovery

the last snake i helped was a guy who got a mite cure off the net

the cure was to lock his jungle in a tub a third full of olive oil and water for 3 weeks (do not use this method)

needless to say the snake was riddled with water blisters and stressed to the max after following an alternative cure for the blisters the snake made full recovery and went on to breed this year.

so imo there is a place for help via pm

then that help can be shared with the public after the health issue of the snake in question has been resolved

i think this thread prooves a picture is worth a thousand words

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ok. trying to see if there is a vet in my area that does snakes. i guess i can tape up the top of the cage as the lid i have has the kind with lots of air holes. also i forgot to say the area that is 80 degres is the end of the tank that is away from the hot lamp(100 watt infrared) and under cage heating pad
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Old 04-14-11, 02:29 PM   #34
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quick update. after soaking him in water the last 2 days the prolapse has gone down alot. it is still there just not as bad. i am thinking he may not be drinking his water unless we soak him in it. that is what we have been doing when we change his tank. we will keep you informed as to how it goes
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Old 04-14-11, 03:01 PM   #35
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sorry did not read everything , but you need to put him in a tub with wet paper towels and make a thick paste out of powdered or granular sugar and water that should help but need to see a vet because you might need to get it stitches to hold everything in.
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Old 04-14-11, 10:05 PM   #36
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It shed recently and it's current skin looks terrible which means it's been sick for some time and it didn't form this current skin properly. That takes the condition back several months. Add that to a prolapse and dehydration, even if it appears to have gone down, and this animal will (sorry to say it but I'm being honest) not survive for too long without medical attention. It definitely has a digestive problem and it has to be serious for all of those symptoms to be showing up. You may have to travel long distance to find a vet but you need one urgently. Like yesterday.
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how long does it take for it to go back to normal from the way it looks in the picture ?

that looks like a partial prolapse to me

if that does not pop back in immediatly after poo'ing i would take it to a vet

is your snake due to shed ?

if that part ever doesn't go back in you need to keep it moist until you can get vetinery treatment

mixing up a little sugar with water and spraying paper towel substrate with it should keep it moist enough

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I keep seeing the use of sugar mentioned what does it accomplish ?
(I'm not doubting you just wondering)
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I keep seeing the use of sugar mentioned what does it accomplish ?
(I'm not doubting you just wondering)
If anything it'll reduce the irritation and swelling but that'll do nothing about the root cause of the dehydration and skin condition or the prolapse so it needs medical attention to get better really urgently imo.

The vet will definitely want poo samples so I'd save whatever comes out in the fridge in baggies to bring with you.
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Ah cool but yes that bp looks like he needs a vet trip
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the pet store we got it from had aspen shavings for bedding an this is what was given to us as bedding. i wonder if he mite hae swallowed some wood chips when they fed him. i hae tried to feed him on a bare spot away from the chips but even then he could have gotten some then also. i have since taken away the chips an used newspapers as bedding. i also intend to soak him daily.
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Have you found a vet yet? Let us know how he gets on.
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If anything it'll reduce the irritation and swelling but that'll do nothing about the root cause of the dehydration and skin condition or the prolapse so it needs medical attention to get better really urgently imo.

The vet will definitely want poo samples so I'd save whatever comes out in the fridge in baggies to bring with you.
the main thing it does is stop the tissue from drying out and dying

it don't fix it but it keeps it healthy and moist until a vet can manipulate the prolapse back in and put a couple of stitches in to keep it in place

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the pet store we got it from had aspen shavings for bedding an this is what was given to us as bedding. i wonder if he mite hae swallowed some wood chips when they fed him. i hae tried to feed him on a bare spot away from the chips but even then he could have gotten some then also. i have since taken away the chips an used newspapers as bedding. i also intend to soak him daily.

you need to soak his paper towels 24/7 until you see a vet the prolapse MUST be kept moist

if it drys out the tissue can die and thats not good for the snake

if you keep spraying the paper towel substrate enough to keep it wet hence keep the tissue moist

i have had plenty carpets swallow aspen substrate with no ill effect thats not to say it can't cause damage

you would be better with paper kitchen towel as when you wet the newspaper the dye might come out

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Re: Constipation?

I always use an old plain white tee shirt. never had a problem.

Soak the shirt, wring it out and lay it down on the floor of the cage.

nice and moist, don't rip or fall apart, and snakes can hide in the folds.
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Eating a couple of aspen shavings won't hurt your snake. It isn't my favorite bedding but it is definitely not going to hurt him for swallowing a couple of pieces. Have you found a vet?
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