U.S. and Iraq

[Alicewave]

And what about the weapons of mass destruction the US has? Maybe someone else needs to police Bush. I have no idea what we have for wepons but I know we've got em.

[gunnerslakeshor]

My take on the whole thing is that goverments american and canadian alike make decisions based on what (they) want not what the people of each country want.
Its always been this way as long as there have been beaurocrate's they say jump we say how high there over fed over payed under worked ***'s arent at stake here its you me our familys and friends wholl pay the price there safe in there tax payed for bunkers and will emerge unhurt after the dust settle's.
So take my thoughts on this sorry mess for what its worth personally i dont think im far off the mark but its my opinion
Sorry if it offends anyone.
Phil

I must say that the US sticking it's nose into everyone else's policy and economics is horrible. We have used our military, economic, and political power to manipulate people and governments around the world including the use of US military against US citizens. If some country came up an told us to stop our neuclear, chemical, or biological programs (I firmly believe we have all three), we would react even nastier than anyone else has.
Bush said how successfull his year was!? no al-quida, no ben laudin, no hussien, economy sucks, unemployment sucks, medical care availability sucks, he backed off ecology issues, gave more breaks to the elite earning bracket, got caught flat footed when his corporate buddies got caught with their hands in the till, and has ignored (except elite issues) class issues both nationally and internationally.

[Alicewave]

Amen Rev

[josefg]

Well said Rev!!

Let's not forget where the Iraqi's got the raw materials for their biological weapons program...AMERICA.
Let's not forget that AMERICA supported Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war.
Let's not forget that AMERICA has used it's own soldiers to evaluate the effects of radiation during nuclear tests.

It's all about OIL, people. Bush says that it's about freedom and liberty for the Iraqi people, but that's not the case. If he does "liberate" Iraq, he'll install some U.S.-controlled puppet to govern the country and make sure that the oil flows cheap and plentiful, and meanwhile the poor, average, "liberated" Iraqi will be no better off.
Okay folks, after years and years of following world events, I have arrived at this conclusion, and it's the bottom line on this situation...
Unfortunately, like it or not, our world economies are based on the Internal Combustion Engine, which requires oil and gasoline. Until we can develope alternatives to the "I.C.E." the Western world will be dependent upon the oil producing nations.
If Bush would just come clean and publically state that "it's about the oil" and quit using "freedom" and "liberty" as his rallying cries, then perhaps I'd support this business venture.

Just my humble opinion.

Happy New Year Everyone!

Simon

[sheri]

Just wondering if anyone here has read any Noam Chomsky.
If not, I would suggest:
"Understanding Power"
or
"Hegemony or Survival".

Both clearly illustrate some of the gigantic problems that the global economy is facing as a result of many factors, with American government (regardless of partisan politics) being the catalyst.

[RepTylE]

I agree that it has all been about oil. Once the big oil companies replenish their stockpiles with the (now ) lower priced oil, they will start up the crap again that will force the price up again and sell at a tremendous profit. The US has been hugging the Chinese and have them to keep north korea in check. After all who would want a couple billion chinese screaming for their blood? China is making contacts in order to build up their economy and given that the US is a large consumer of goods. China is going to want to keep in their good books (within reason).
Still the international stage requires alot of smooth handling these days and I would not be convinced that the Bush administration is up to the challenge.

[Slannesh]

Necroposting aside (this thread was dead for nearly 2 years before the last two posts) Doesn't anyone read the Terms of Service anymore?

Political and Religious discussion is specifically not allowed. I don't really care what anyone's political bent is but I really shouldn't have to read political opinions on this site since i'm not allowed to post my own

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

SLANNESH:

AMEN...........and war sucks.

Cya...

Tony

[DragnDrop]

Lets re-bury this thread. I don't know why it was even dug up to begin with, but it's going back where it came from.