90 Gallon for a BP?

[lostwithin]

Spirit, my original suspicions were nothing special, Malnutrition possible dehydration (because they normally go hand in hand), and they can be caused by either sever underfeeding over a long period of time or internal parasites. You seem to be backtracking on all your previous statements. I will be sending you a pm because you are right no need to side track this post any more and we can discuss it more that way, I’m glad you didn’t take it as an insult, I really only mean to be helpful but often people take offence easily in the forum and a lot of the time they are right too with all the bashing and flame wars that go on in here.
Sorry for the slight sidetracks End Times.

Devon

[Spirit]

Thanks Devon!

He was mildly dehydrated, and I never ignored the idea of malnutrition, which is why I IMMEDIATELY switched to rats (for now, because they're smalll, 2 per week... 1 on sundays, 1 midweek). Already he looks worlds better.

I have a picture I took this morning to show you (and one I took the day I brought him home, for comparison), but I'll do it via pm.

Thanks again, and I apologise for taking over this thread.

[HumphreyBoagart]

Spirit,
I had the same concerns and tried to express them about a month ago when you first posted about it, but we all know where that got us. LOL! I told you that a ball that is constantly trying to get out, isn't stress free, in fact he's the opposite, he's stressed and want's the frig outta there. I am not trying to be insulting either, or start a flame war by any means, but you should start listening to people that have had ball pythons for longer than 5 weeks if you know what I'm saying. How do you know he is healthy if you've never had him to a vet and had a fecal done? Because the guy who SOLD him to you said so? Please don't take offence to this as I'm truely not trying to be an @$$#ole, I am just trying to help you and tell it like it is, as nicely as I can. I know it is hard to listen to someone telling you that there is something wrong with your ball when they've never seen it, but remember that they've had balls alot longer than 5 weeks like yourself. You should listen to people that are trying to help you instead of just backtracking and making up excuses or getting mad or whatever. (once again, I know this sounds mean, but I am truely trying to help you.)
I also have been reading every post you've written since you've gotten the ball, and I have bitten my tongue time and time again, because I honestly don't want to offend you or have it turn into a flame war, but I really truely think that you shouldn't give so much advice to everybody about how to take care of their ball pythons when you only have had it for 5 weeks now. Alot of the info you are giving is correct, but it's regurgitated info you've read or been told by someone on here (and you disaggreed for most of it but now you're recommending it!?!) It's fine to pass on the basic info or whatever, but you make it sound like it's from your own experience. I know you're going to take all this the wrong way, but I am not trying to be insulting and hurtful at all. Please don't see it that way and really think about what I'm writing. I am not trying to say that I know everything there is to know by anymeans, and I don't, but I hate to see someone that is having problems with their animal that they've only had for 5 weeks, giving advice to newbies or whoever that will end up having the same problems. Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should help everyone out, but do it from your own experience, once you have some. I really hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I know it is pretty much inevitable, but please don't be offended, upset, mad, sad, or anything like that, because that wasn't the reason for this post at all. Sorry to blab on. Don't be upset or offended please, just try and think about what I said.

Craig

[Spirit]

I did hump, but you were rude... back then.

He actually hasn't tried to escape since that first week I got him (that I've seen), and he's slowly starting to calm down now that he's getting the proper nutrition.

Just something I've noticed, but several of you people here seem to be extremely judgemental and quick to be rude about it, or critisise someone for doing something wrong, instead of teaching them why it's wrong, and showing them how to make it right.

"Better" is usally just someone's opinion, but most of yours (speaking in general, not to you hump) is not backed up with facts as to why it's bad in the first place.

Regarding this:

Originally posted by HumphreyBoagart
but I really truely think that you shouldn't give so much advice to everybody about how to take care of their ball pythons when you only have had it for 5 weeks now. Alot of the info you are giving is correct, but it's regurgitated info you've read or been told by someone on here (and you disaggreed for most of it but now you're recommending it!?!)

Im not sure what you're reffering to, but if it's rubbermaids, I hate them, and I always will. I do not wish to use them, and I am so far using glass with great success... but I also know the benefits of rubbermaid so if someone asks me which is better, my belief is that plastic is, for these reasons, but I prefer glass for these reasons.

I would never advise someone on something I don't know about, but like this thread... 90 gallons is too big for a snake hatchling. ANY snake hatchling. I know this, and I know why. If I can help teach someone why, I will.

I do appreciate what you just said though, but even more so I appreciate your tone. I will take into concideration what advise I pass on.

Now not that I need to justify anything here (and I won't), but I want to get one thing straight. I'm new to balls. I am not new to snakes.

[lostwithin]

Spirit, I sent you a pm, I would love to see before and after pictures. I'll wait for that pm, or if you have msn, You can reach me at devon_75@hotmail.com (that’s easier then pm's back and forth anyone is welcome to find me there)

Devon

[Spirit]

If you don't mind, I'll do msn. It's just so much easier.

Thanks so much.

[HumphreyBoagart]

I'm very glad you didn't take that the wrong way.
If you read the original post over that we were arguing in I think you'll probably find that I wasn't being rude, you were! LOL No I'm not trying to start an arguement over it again, I just want to clarify it. I was simply trying to help you, not offend or upset you and you said the comment "but nice job on the antagonistic downtalk" for no reason. That was when I got rude, and I didn't even really get that rude for how disrespectful you were being after I was trying to help you. It might have seemed rude and offended you, but it was not intended to at all, but that was how you were taking it. But bygones are bygones and I'm not too worried about it. I can tell by your response to my last post that you actually are listening to peoples advice and thinking about it, instead of thinking they are criticising you or trying to offend you. I think if that old post was now, you wouldn't have even said it, because you would have realized I was just trying to help you. Don't worry I get like that too. You were taking it as a personal attack, when in fact it wasn't an attack at all. I do the same thing, everyone does, it's human nature. But I can see we are all learning from our mistakes. And that's a good thing. : )
As far as this thread you're absolutely right, (and I told you that)it is way to big for a ball. I also said that it is good for everyone to help everyone with the basics, and I consider that the basics, so good job!
I know your new to balls not snakes, you got your first "practice" (your word, not mine) cornsnake to get you ready for balls, two months before you got your ball, and I think that you expected it to be like your cornsnake, and were very surprised when thye are nothing like them. Again, this isn't supposed to be offensive or anything like that either, and I know it sounds that way, but it's not supposed to be an attack whatsoever.
It's nice that we can talk about this without both of us ending up mad or sad or whatever. We're learning. : )
Hump.

[Spirit]

Well then I'm going to repeat exactly what I said in that thread.

"SHUUUUUUUSH!" lol

Get back on topic, people!

And Devon: Thanks for all your help. My mind is much more at ease now, from all these people telling me my snake is sick. /vent

[HumphreyBoagart]

Uhh...maybe I should cut and paste it, cuz that's not at all what you said! LOL
Back on topic. Yes it's too big for a ball python.