NEW exotera Vivs!! - Page 3

gargoyle · 02-24-05, 07:20 PM

Havenbounce: Actually I didn't "call you a liar" I said I'd have to second quess the info at hand! Anyways it seems that you didn't follow the instructions for this it states not to do what you did, place it above the plastic! the manual states to clip the "glo light" above the lid, so that it does not come in contact with the lid. I'd say that almost any plastic that comes within an inch or so of a heat bulb (50w or not) it will show some melting. I'd say just follow the direction and it should be fine! I'm going to purchase one of these tomorrow just to test it out, setup exactly as the instructions say and I'll let everyone know what happens in a couple days after I've given it a good test. I'll probably use a higher wattage bulb (75 or 100) just for the test! give me a couple days!

havenbounce · 02-24-05, 07:38 PM

No you did not it was concept3 who claimed I made it up. I got the enclosure from someone with no box and no instructions. I just checked out their sight 20 minutes ago to get that warning. I had posted the warning because I know alot of people do not read instructions and wanted to save someone from having the same thing happening to them. Have since hung an over heat lamp (about 6" off the lid) and have had no problems. I have spoken to a rep from Hagen and was notified that this problem is common and that they are working on a new design for the lid so that it won't happen again. I think the design is great for non heat loving reptiles.

Ginnette

Siretsap · 02-24-05, 07:47 PM

You shouln't put a bulb on any plastic surface...

We bought 2, and they are totally worth it for cresties or other arboreal geckos, not to mention what you can make for amphibians. Really not dissapointed on these purchases.

JD@reptiles · 02-24-05, 11:26 PM

I bought one from PCPC and I am really happy with mine. So is my green tree python.

Jordan

Ptindy · 02-24-05, 11:46 PM

Well, I'm sure my uroplatus would love them, how much is the 2 by 2 by 2 running for, anyone know? Thanks.

Mike

Slannesh · 02-25-05, 08:43 AM

Well first off if you put the heat lamp ON the plastic bit it wasn't at 80F. Probably more like 280F

Try heatgunning a heatlamp sometime.. they get very hot. I've got a heatlamp on my beardie cage that regularly tempguns at over 300 F when I temp the bulb directly. Even through the wire top it heats the floor to 100 F at a distance of about 18"

No one was calling you a liar havenbounce, it was just that your post was worded strangely and when I first read it I thought you were claiming that the styrofoam and plastic was melting at 80F which is impossible for either of those materials without some sort of solvent involved.

Although your experience does bring up a good point. Heat lamps are dangerous when they're improperly used and secured.

I'm planning on buying one of these tanks when my cresties get a big bigger as well

My big concern here is that you say the styrofoam melted... that means that INSIDE your enclosure it was 200 F or higher. I really hope there wasn't an aboreal species in there at the time.

I'm sure where your probe was it was only 80F but the fact that even being generous on the melting point of the styrofoam and calling it 175F it HAD to be at least that hot where the styrofoam melted. Much too hot for any species i'm aware of, especially anything that would fit in one of those enclosures.

havenbounce · 02-25-05, 09:51 AM

The foam melted right on top were in touched the lid. It was only about an inch long. No nothing was in it at the time. Was just setting it up and planned on letting it air out a bit because they smell pretty strong when you first set it up. Mine was already out of the box for awhile but had never been opened, so I can't imagine how they smell fresh from the box.
There is now a happy Wahlbergs Velvet Gecko in it.
Ginnette

clint545 · 02-25-05, 10:05 AM

Ptindy - I believe the 2x2x2 is $119 +tax. At least that is the price at the pet store near me.
I also believe the current prices might be a Promotion price too but not 100% sure!

"Red-eye"_Matt · 02-25-05, 08:17 PM

Can anyone send me a link for the 2' x 2' x 2' tank. I checked the exo-terra website and the largest I can find there is 18" x 18" x 24" tall. That is the size we have and I am curious to see a larger one as they seem to be great tanks.

Matt

noahspets · 03-07-05, 12:09 PM

Matt - I work at a pet store and the biggest one we can get is 18 x 18 x 24. I would like to find out as well if there is a bigger one.

Double J - I have noticed that smell and it was quite strong, but only for a little bit after you take it out of the box.

Haven Bounce - I own 3 18 x 18 x 24 exo terra terrariums myself and we have 2 set up at the store. An 18 x 18 x 18 and an 18 x 18 x 24. We have heat lamps on all of them. There is 50 watt exo terra sun glow bulbs on 3 of the 18 x 18 x 24's and the 18 x 18 x 18 and a 50 watt exo terra infrared on the other one. We have never had any problems with melting of anything, whether it be the styrofoam or the lids. We made sure that when we placed them though, that the bulbs were in the middle of the screen.

IMO I think the ExoTerra All Glass Terrariums are awesome. They look good and they are extremely functional. The lid, the background, the holes for wiring, the glass in the front for water, the swing out glass doors with the latch, the raised floor for a UTH is all great. They are definatly worth the little bit of money. Now the next best thing would be if they got into making HUGE ones. But I am sure that will come.

mark129er · 03-08-05, 11:10 AM

Hagen, the distributor of the new terrariums, has issued an advisory to retailers. The statement reads that ALL incandescant heat lamps and even some flourescant lamps should be suspended a MINIMUM of 4 inches above the mesh top as there is a potential for melting.

Not the exact wording (couldn't be bothered to memorize it) but pretty close.

I haven't used them, they look good but are a bit small for my uses. I work in a pet store that sells them. The advisory came in just yesterday.

noahspets · 03-08-05, 07:05 PM

We haven't got anything from Hagen yet. Oh well, probably tomorrow.

Cruciform · 03-09-05, 11:25 AM

I stopped by Superpet in London the other night and checked out the cages while I was picking up some Provent-a-mite. They look good, and are quite affordable.

I'm going to pick up one of the bigger ones for the LTR and see how it goes. I think the spotteds will definitely end up in these too