euthanasia - once & for all - Page 3

reptiguy420 · 12-01-04, 12:50 PM

WOW!You guys actually squeez the pinks head till it caves in?Thats sick.

Ptindy · 12-01-04, 02:22 PM

Is it just me or do we seem to be referring to euthanizing healthy animals that are fully aware of what's going on? If I ever considered euthanizing any of my pets they would have to be near death or no chance of survival. If it was an old dog or something I would probably just want to be with him till his eyes closed. If the dog was bleeding severely then I would get him euthanized. But that's only because he won't fit in the freezer! jk... It's actually only because they have feelings, they know when your down or up and respond to your body actions, it's amazing. But a reptile, I wouldn't hesitate to cool down and eventually freeze. Like I said, I would only have to consider this option if they had to go, and when something is going to die and there is no way around it how bad could freezing possibly be? Call be a cold hearted whatever, but I've heard of people, animals and other creatures having their lives ended in a less humane way then freezing. And as for the blood freezing inside reptiles and causing pain, I wouldn't buy that for one minute. My hands get frozen in the winter to the point where I could slam them against a wall and feeling very little pain, my blood obviously didn't freeze. I think the reptile would no longer feel anything or would no longer be consious. Let's flip the boat around, now, dosing the think with gaslone and striking a match for a reptile, that would be pretty brutal, but still, don't reptiles burn themselves all the time and not show any responses besides physical harm? What about the crickets that we feed to our geckos who get their leg crushed in a mouth, then the next leg, oh oh then he loses both, oh now his abdomen is being squished repeatedly, and finally the head, there we go, swallow. Should we be cutting of their heads first?

Mike

coldblooded · 12-01-04, 04:05 PM

With everyone being so worried that the feeder animals receive a humane death, maybe we should stop using them.

Mike

marisa · 12-01-04, 04:11 PM

"With everyone being so worried that the feeder animals receive a humane death, maybe we should stop using them"

Well since feeding snakes lettuce isn't an option, I don't see anything wrong with trying to give the feeder mice or rats the best possible death without pain or suffering.

With that said, I don't worry about it too much. We simply whack rats and mice over the head for an instant kill... or use Co2.

Marisa

coldblooded · 12-01-04, 04:18 PM

I don't see anything wrong with a humane death either, it's just that everyone is going to look at this differently.

Snakes probably don't eat lettuce, but do they eat F/T animals in the wild? Probably not.

We're all still good people, though.

Mike

M_surinamensis · 12-01-04, 07:18 PM

Did anyone actually read the initial post? The thread wasn't initiated about feeder animals, although it's a closely related discussion... it was about appropriate euthanasia methods for HERPS. While it wasn't specified, I believe that it was kind of assumed a reasonable justification for the euthanasia would be present to begin with and was really a question of methodology. Not "is it right or wrong" but "is it right or wrong when performed this way"

augerdvm · 12-01-04, 07:32 PM

nice to see that so many people have differing thoughts on a potentially "touchy" situation....

Euthanasia was not the origional discussion...the method used was.....

Seeing how humane euthanasia by injection can be.....i cant fathom putting an animal in the freezer...

the best drugs avail are controlled drugs and cannot be dispensed...not everyone can set up a CO2 chamber either..

All i ask is that you at least consult a veterinarian before attempting an "at home" euthansia...

most vets will offer the servicxe for you at a reasonable rate (some for free sometimes)...

arent our pets worth it?

IF your pet is "just a number" then why are you in the hobby for the right reason???

Frillie · 12-01-04, 09:03 PM

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Quote:

When euthanizing an animal... any animal... I choose the method which is most convenient for me.

To M_surinamensis:

You don't deserve to keep animals of any sort...I would make this a lot more critical if I could

M_surinamensis · 12-01-04, 09:58 PM

Quote:

To M_surinamensis:

You don't deserve to keep animals of any sort...I would make this a lot more critical if I could

By all means feel free... but read the entire post and linked thread before doing so and be prepared to get called on the validity of your criticisms and have a semi-abusive crash course education in why it's not smart to question anything Seamus says.

Frillie · 12-03-04, 01:41 AM

Firsty, I'm not juvenile enough to respond to a thread without reading the entire thing, and I stand by my past statement.

And secondly, you're making yourself out to be a pretty righteous guy, and if you think provoking pathetic little confrontations makes you a big, important man you're in need of a serious reality check.