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10-07-04, 11:13 PM
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#31
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Join Date: Jul-2004
Location: Mitchell, Ontario
Age: 37
Posts: 814
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How is a reduced pattern produced? Is it line bred or a reproducable mutation? Pretty cool either way.
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10-07-04, 11:14 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
Posts: 5,000
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LOL, they're het for amazing!! Feel better?? They're both beautiful normals either way you look at it.. That female is outstanding and never missed a meal while in my care.. It was hard to part with her but I had no choice at the time. Im glad they both ended up with someone who's taking good care of them though.. Keep us updated on that female, i'd love to see how she matures.. 
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10-07-04, 11:14 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Aug-2004
Posts: 203
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I'm suprised no one mentioned the possibility that it could have been Het for Xanthic thus the normal apearance and lower price.
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10-07-04, 11:19 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 39
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I have just never seen a ball python with so much yellow/brown missing in the pattern I thought for sure it was something? I asked if he meant het for xanthic but he said no it was 100% zanthic and if I bread him to an albino I should get some snows, but I don't think so anymore.
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10-07-04, 11:22 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 39
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Maybe this is a better pic, don't mind the small cage, it is only temp, I didn't want to introduce him to the other balls just yet. New Pic
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10-07-04, 11:22 PM
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#36
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 4,971
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Well, even IF the snake IS "xanthic" (which is the wrong term... should be <b>A</b>xanthic), and you bred it to an albino, you would not get snows. You would get double hets that look normal.
You should call this guy and try to clear some of this up with him. If he DID scam you, post about it on the BOI that was linked earlier.
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10-07-04, 11:24 PM
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#37
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Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 39
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I am going to talk to him first and see what he is going to do before I post anything just yet, got to give him a chance.
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10-07-04, 11:25 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Aug-2003
Location: BC
Posts: 717
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the first one is most likely normal unless you can prove it out. it definitely has some really cool stuff going on with the pattern though and would be worth breeding out. that 800 gram reduced pattern female IMO shouldnt be refered to as normal beacause that is a ridiculously nice animal , and the last one also appears to be normal but yeah its entirely possible that theyre het for axanthic. good luck with them and DAMN that female is sweet!!! if i had her id try to find a really nice reduced pattern/banded male to breed her with and see what happens.
just my .02 
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10-08-04, 08:40 AM
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#39
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Banned
Join Date: Oct-2004
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Posts: 317
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I agree with munchy! Shes a awesome snake and I would breed her with a banded!
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10-08-04, 11:26 AM
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#40
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Join Date: Feb-2004
Location: Edmonton
Age: 46
Posts: 842
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Your 800g female would be a nice match for osiris, my male!! LOL, his pic is my avatar and they would produce some beautiful babies. Too bad we are so far away. She is beautiful!! Where was i when you were selling her Matt!! I would have snatched her up!
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BALL PYTHONS!!
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10-08-04, 11:55 AM
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#41
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Join Date: Apr-2003
Posts: 995
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From the pic shown, you got ripped off..... I dispise people selling normals as a morph, and axanthics seem to be the biggest one to do it with.
Please update us as to if the guy is going to give you most of your money back or explain himself!
Jessy
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10-09-04, 12:18 PM
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#42
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Age: 49
Posts: 6,292
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Not an xanthic, or an axanthic. Nice normals nonetheless. Good luck with them.
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10-09-04, 04:04 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 39
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Just got back form the reptile store and got a full refund, man is the internet a strong tool. Thanks for all your help, everyone.
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10-09-04, 04:20 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 4,971
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I'm very happy for you! Take that $500 and invest it in an honest breeder's stock and you'll be VERY happy with what you get.
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10-09-04, 04:46 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Aug-2003
Location: BC
Posts: 717
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you still have that nice female????
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